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In reply to the discussion: Guns used for self-defense vs. acts of violence [View all]pipoman
(16,038 posts)94. The conflation of such things as
'x is 5 times more likely than y' is not stats, therefore are meaningless...notice how there isn't a single stat in your "graphic" (Cartoon)?
how about we look at some stats, eh?
Crime and Self-Defense
* Roughly 16,272 murders were committed in the United States during 2008. Of these, about 10,886 or 67% were committed with firearms.[11]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[12]
* Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13] [14] [15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16]
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19]
* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]
* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
* Roughly 16,272 murders were committed in the United States during 2008. Of these, about 10,886 or 67% were committed with firearms.[11]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 0.5% of households had members who had used a gun for defense during a situation in which they thought someone "almost certainly would have been killed" if they "had not used a gun for protection." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 162,000 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[12]
* Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.[13] [14] [15] Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.[16]
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19]
* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]
* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
No the use of 'x is 5 times more likely than y' is a method of avoiding actual statistics.
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The best way to do that is UBC combined with registration, and harsher penalties for
jmg257
Jun 2013
#126
Understood - we'll disagree then. Registration seems THE best way to ensure UBC.
jmg257
Jun 2013
#144
Other then ensuring background checks are much more likely to be carried out, ya mean.
jmg257
Jun 2013
#138
If true, then more Democrats were elected to Congress in 1994 than Republicans,
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#15
If you perceived your points as valid, maybe you wouldn't be frustrated to the point where you
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#35
Obviously, the gun bans in Chicago is a reason why gun violence is so low in Chicago.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#91
You continue to assert that. I would like to see some data to support that claim.
BainsBane
Jun 2013
#115
those who carry guns are more likely to involve themselves in altercations and homicides
BainsBane
Jun 2013
#77
It's like you are reading entirely different posts and then responding to mine...
Pelican
Jun 2013
#83
Where, in that thread, is any gungeoner fantasizing about killing someone? N/T
GreenStormCloud
Jun 2013
#121
Many automobile manufacturers equip their cars with spare tires. How many car owners actually
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#19
Woah there. This is deaths by firearm. A minority of self-defense uses kill anyone
Recursion
Jun 2013
#16
So what's the distribution of those six categories? Are non-lethal self defense uses more or less...
Recursion
Jun 2013
#22
Evidence of non-lethal self defense use of guns is and has always been the missing piece
Recursion
Jun 2013
#146
In your world, self-defense does not involve violence? How does that work?
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#24
If I have to provide evidence that me holding a gun will stop you from attacking
former9thward
Jun 2013
#134
Them main use of guns is not for either Suicide, Self-defense, or acts of violence
1-Old-Man
Jun 2013
#136