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114. Gregary? You are being kind. He is a dancing partner of Karl Rove, accurately described

Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:54 PM

Jun 2013

by Steven Colbert, as a 'stenographer'. Way below the level of yellow journalism. Propagandist is a more accurate description our Corporate Media puppets.

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"Greenwald is an advocate, not a journalist" This is important to remember. [View all] Catherina Jun 2013 OP

Lol. dkf Jun 2013 #1

I love that Glenn is rattling the party sycophants and the big media tools in one fell swoop Maven Jun 2013 #2

LOVE it. Spanked David Gregory on MTP! He's a true JOURNALIST. Fearless. chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #5

Lol, he made minced meat of Gregary, friend and dancing partner of Rove. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #113

Gregory actually said it wasn't his role to challenge annabanana Jun 2013 #128

Lol, we knew that. His job is to 'catapult the propaganda'! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #141

What role did Rattner play in the aluminum tubes story? struggle4progress Jun 2013 #68

Did he call Judy Miller an advocate? JackRiddler Jun 2013 #101

None, but he has a blog at the NYT Babel_17 Jun 2013 #102

LOL! Fucking with Greenwald is not a pastime for the wise. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #3

Does Greenwald *really* want to open up the Iraq can of worms, given what he was doing in 2003? Recursion Jun 2013 #4

Greenwald agreed with Hillary about Iraq Fumesucker Jun 2013 #9

Still, that's a biggie... mistake-wise. How old was he? n/t Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #25

How old was Hillary? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #51

Probably 55. But one doesn't ( I don't) expect as much from Hillary. For obvious reasons. n/t Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #74

How old was Hillary? And has she had the courage to admit how wrong she was as Greenwald did sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #125

Actually, I agree. It is somewhat disconcerting that he didn't oppose Iraq from the get-go... Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #133

He hasn't admitted he was mistaken about Snowden yet. baldguy Jun 2013 #58

What are the lies? cui bono Jun 2013 #93

Snowden's revelations of the NSA blanket surveillance program Maedhros Jun 2013 #108

That's what I thought, but figured I might have missed something. Thanks. n/t cui bono Jun 2013 #130

The President has not only confirmed 'Snowden's lies' but has explained them. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #142

Snowden's central allegation - which has been repeated here by his sycophants baldguy Jun 2013 #145

& the DU haters will act like you never wrote this post ... eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #149

+1 patrice Jun 2013 #155

I cannot help but notice a very particular tone to the comments of those in opposition to your MADem Jun 2013 #171

Spot on... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #165

Indeed..the willingness to ADMIT "Criminality" is a Mark of Character.... KoKo Jun 2013 #85

Maybe like me, Greenwald is so keen on watching for lies because JDPriestly Jun 2013 #28

Point goes to Recursion. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #54

My thought, as well... MADem Jun 2013 #56

In 2003 he may have accepted the war in Iraq Maedhros Jun 2013 #110

The "evolving view" isn't his problem. It's the "high horse" that gives him deserved trouble. nt MADem Jun 2013 #119

Well said. B Stieg Jun 2013 #126

I can accept that you don't like his writing style. Maedhros Jun 2013 #129

This has NOTHING to do with his "writing style." MADem Jun 2013 #134

Oh - you're referring to Twitter flame wars. Maedhros Jun 2013 #136

I don't think someone who lives in the public eye can be an asshole on twitter--or anywhere else-- MADem Jun 2013 #138

How can one quote a small portion of the preface to "How Would A Patriot Act" Maedhros Jun 2013 #140

Good grief, and I ask this question quite sincerely--are you dull of comprehension, or are you MADem Jun 2013 #146

Not quite. Maedhros Jun 2013 #148

Well, he wasn't telling the truth about THAT either. MADem Jun 2013 #158

I've posted Greenwald's response to your assertions previously Maedhros Jun 2013 #163

But they don't "debunk" them in the slightest. MADem Jun 2013 #164

He answers all your accusations Maedhros Jun 2013 #166

Well, to return to my Whitey Bulger analogy, just because Whitey tells you that he was MADem Jun 2013 #167

Greenwald is pro-civil liberties, anti-war and anti-security state. Maedhros Jun 2013 #168

He also found "Constitutional" excuses for the Citizens United ruling. MADem Jun 2013 #169

As I've demonstrated with actual links and evidence, Maedhros Jun 2013 #153

Two answers to one post don't make your case. Big Fail. GG lied. MADem Jun 2013 #160

You don't much about Twitter do you? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #127

What was he doing? He was a private citizen. He hadn't written a book, he hadn't appeared on TV & Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #63

Yes, why wouldn't he? He was one of the few people who initially supported Bush's war who when sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #116

To the conservative mind, all whistle blowers are criminals. All challenges to authoritarian leader rhett o rick Jun 2013 #6

To the racist mind, all Black men are niggers. And they should be challenged every time . . . Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #11

That's a strange way of agreeing with my post. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #14

You used the N word OMG! Scream raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xtraxritical Jun 2013 #24

What a disgusting response. /nt Marr Jun 2013 #30

I think a significant portion of Americans sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #32

I don't understand what your comment has to do with what the person you are responding to said. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2013 #33

It's all they've got nxylas Jun 2013 #35

Major Hogwash indeed. dorkulon Jun 2013 #38

From here on it's Captain Hogwash. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #90

This poster is aptly named. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #41

You should talk? Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #76

Nice post, Paula Deen. morningfog Jun 2013 #91

That was completely uncalled for, and added nothing to your post. (nt) SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #103

BINGO. This whole "what side are you on" debate comes down to people who... NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #89

Well said,. the victims behave sadly like victims, looking for an oppressor. Civilization2 Jun 2013 #98

Authoritarians come in every political flavor in the spectrum. I think it's a reflection of patrice Jun 2013 #156

K & R AzDar Jun 2013 #7

"Advocacy journalism" is what it used to be called. That's what he does. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #8

I put it in quotes now to make it clear that's not my opinion. n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #10

+1. n/t Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #26

"Investigative Journalism" would be appropriate too. bvar22 Jun 2013 #20

"Yellow journalism" is what it used to be called. *That's* what he really does. baldguy Jun 2013 #60

Gregary? You are being kind. He is a dancing partner of Karl Rove, accurately described sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #114

Being deliberatly obtuse doesn't help your cause. baldguy Jun 2013 #117

Well, you are free to show me where I am wrong. Absent that, I assume you agree. It would be sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #121

News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising. - Lord Northcliffe Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #12

Once a car czar, always a car czar. Octafish Jun 2013 #13

Rattner go away Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #15

Rattner is a rat-scampering two-faced tool that sold his soul to the Devil... kentuck Jun 2013 #16

The Rich Get Even Richer (By Steven Rattner NYT March 25, 2012) struggle4progress Jun 2013 #70

And if he were an "advocate" ? kentuck Jun 2013 #17

Of course 1st comes before 4th, doesn't it? Ford_Prefect Jun 2013 #19

Hell of a reply by Greenwald Autumn Jun 2013 #18

Background: bvar22 Jun 2013 #21

Iow, Rattner is a Wall St Corporate shill. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #122

Whoa! That's going to leave a mark. Th1onein Jun 2013 #22

Youch. Protip: Consider your Greenwald slams carefully. DirkGently Jun 2013 #23

Greenwald was being ironic because our journalists do not do the job JDPriestly Jun 2013 #27

lol!!!! k&r for Greenwald. Little Star Jun 2013 #29

While ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #31

Childish? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #34

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #36

What insult did he use? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #37

Never mind ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #42

I actually disagree... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2013 #44

I would have no problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #49

Twitter, not tweeter old man. And what you typed up is NOT what was in the exchange Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #55

I thought I asked you to place me on ignore! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #59

Why would I care? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #65

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #77

This is bizarre-- I've been repeatedly asked/ordered by BOGers to put them on ignore, too. Marr Jun 2013 #106

I know, me too. I guess the ignore button is hard to find or something. And the old 'stalking' sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #123

Okay, since you're calling it a tweeter account I guess that you don't realize cui bono Jun 2013 #94

He pointed out a fact, unless you forgot the news media participation in the push for Bush's sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #120

If you're a journalist who's been accused of not being a journalist, dorkulon Jun 2013 #39

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #43

Your whole theory that folks need to silently get kicked in the nuts to show they are sincre Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #53

I thought I asked you to place me on ignore! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #57

I thought I told you to stop presuming to order me about. This is a discussion board if you Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #64

So ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #75

it's a discussion board, to discuss issues. You can keep your orders and your words about Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #79

But you are NOT discussing issues ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #81

And Rattner made it about the man. Why didn't he stick to the story? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #124

It wasn't Greenwald who made it about Greenwald. It's everyone casting aspersions at Greenwald dorkulon Jun 2013 #132

Nonsense. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #48

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #50

Rattner has no credibility, Greenwald's point is valid, Hissyspit Jun 2013 #52

How stupid. He throws out a strawman to defend himself and DU'ers cheer. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #40

Strawman? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #46

What role did Rattner play in the aluminum tubes story? struggle4progress Jun 2013 #67

No said he did. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #73

So it's an irrelevant distraction from Greenwald struggle4progress Jun 2013 #80

he was a member of the goddamned media establishment that lied us into war? burnodo Jun 2013 #151

I thought he left journalism in the early 80s and went into finance struggle4progress Jun 2013 #157

No. ReRe Jun 2013 #96

I think it's funny when the Obama blind defenders morph into bush defenders. Classic! morningfog Jun 2013 #92

No, they're still defending Obama. Maedhros Jun 2013 #111

k&r... spanone Jun 2013 #45

love it, and people dare to criticize snowden for talking to the chinese press Monkie Jun 2013 #47

Greenwald doesn't report the news, he manufactures it. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #61

This is slightly OT, but.... Jarla Jun 2013 #62

And we have a big ole "BINGO". I was far from college...... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #66

I have been saying Caretha Jun 2013 #100

The better question is "Why did so many of our politicians pretend not to know this?" Catherina Jun 2013 #69

Yes, that's a good point. Jarla Jun 2013 #72

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #71

Just because he's not doing the aluminum tube thing doesn't mean he isn't doing its equivalent patrice Jun 2013 #78

Neither is okay rpannier Jun 2013 #95

I place much more weight on the fact that there have been multiple Maedhros Jun 2013 #112

I don't doubt that what ES says is true. My comparison is about how the information is being used, patrice Jun 2013 #150

The LIbertarian Conspiracy Theory falls apart. Maedhros Jun 2013 #152

He's helping Snowden who is a Ron Paul devotee, but I do stand corrected as to his personal views.nt patrice Jun 2013 #154

when greenwald said; dionysus Jun 2013 #82

Hillary believed in the aluminum tubes also and used that as a basis to vote for the Iraq war Fumesucker Jun 2013 #87

You (and others) have seized upon one passage from "How Would A Patriot Act?" Maedhros Jun 2013 #118

Rattner, another insider dirtbag. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #83

Definitely a "Good One," Catherina! KoKo Jun 2013 #84

Ouch. I think they're going to stop engaging Greenwald Doctor_J Jun 2013 #86

K&R! nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #88

K&R ReRe Jun 2013 #97

I guess you don't qualify as a "journalist" unless you shill for a major corporate media outlet .. Ganja Ninja Jun 2013 #99

Snowden is not a whistle blower in the technical sense. He didn't follow the rules in order SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #104

When a state's system has broken down, there often is no way a whistleblowers can "follow rules"... cascadiance Jun 2013 #115

The problem we have, as I see it, is that the current whistle blower statutes need SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #131

What you say is precisely why we need a system of better protection for whistleblowers... cascadiance Jun 2013 #135

I generally agree with what you've said, but I particularly liked the part I SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #137

So� he's like Limbaugh railsback Jun 2013 #105

Gregory, dancing partner of Rove, is just the MSM version of Limbaugh. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #143

He's not a journalist, he's an activist�like Limbaugh railsback Jun 2013 #144

Exactly. Looks like he's hearing from the people on his Twitter account. No wonder the MSM has sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #147

Speaking of criminals..... alsame Jun 2013 #107

bla-yayam! tomm2thumbs Jun 2013 #109

that is awesome yurbud Jun 2013 #139

LOL Savannahmann Jun 2013 #159

The new meme now is Snowden has info on CIA operatives Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #161

Totally right. I was just reading something about that too Catherina Jun 2013 #172

A pot calling a pot a pot. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #162

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #170