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karynnj

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44. Might be that you are giving the benefit of the doubt to them and not those troubled
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:30 PM
Jun 2013

As to issues, someone in favor of him who mentioned what he did - is considered to be speaking of the issues.

Someone who comments that someone, who takes a job with the CIA and the NSA, and then UNILATERALLY opts to release classified information to the media and to countries often seen as our enemies, is likely not acting in our interests is considered to be attacking him and not speaking of the "issues". Now, there are times when whistleblowers need to go public - but note that he did not go through any of the reasonable options. As some pointed out, why not take this to Rand Paul, who would have clearance?

The fact is that NOTHING on the telephone records differed from what was said in the Senate and House in 2007 when it was debated - ON CSPAN.

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It is viceral because it forces a paradigm shift Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #1
that could very well be the crux of the matter. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #3
Trolls know how to phrase their posts to get a reaction out of others Kolesar Jun 2013 #2
He stole Obama's pony! RobertEarl Jun 2013 #4
That one is funny jimlup Jun 2013 #20
Read what Harmony wrote, and there is more. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #5
Allow me to clarify: UTUSN Jun 2013 #6
File a complaint? Like the other 3 NSA whistle blowers did? How'd that work out? think Jun 2013 #7
So giving info to "others" is the answer. n/t UTUSN Jun 2013 #9
What info did he give them? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #19
Their real concern is that it is embarrassing, a waste of money, and more valuable as a blackmail GoneFishin Jun 2013 #29
His position and access give more credibility to his claims - even without documents karynnj Jun 2013 #42
That is the plan, Stan. They want it kept under wraps. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #12
I don't agree with your position at this point in time, ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #8
Thankfully marions ghost Jun 2013 #11
I seriously don't think he considers himself jimlup Jun 2013 #21
To Posts#s11& 21,oh so I (anybody who disagrees) don't have a conscienceANDbelieve (only) propaganda UTUSN Jun 2013 #27
Well vdogg Jun 2013 #10
I agree - and have been told that Rove etc agree with me - even though I have posted here for years karynnj Jun 2013 #43
Seriously? treestar Jun 2013 #13
I do not think those that idolize him help either but they haven't been making all Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #15
Might be that you are giving the benefit of the doubt to them and not those troubled karynnj Jun 2013 #44
Well said. Those in favor of Snowden jumped to his defense so quickly flamingdem Jun 2013 #22
I think it's just a generalised sense of having been thwarted. sibelian Jun 2013 #14
You nailed it Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #16
Do you find my position ludicrous? vdogg Jun 2013 #18
Why was a private contractor privvy to such info? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #23
You won't get any arguments from me on this one. vdogg Jun 2013 #25
I don't consider it to be that big a deal RobertEarl Jun 2013 #26
Was he? Recursion Jun 2013 #33
Ah, well... sibelian Jun 2013 #34
Those governments already know Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #37
The visceral contempt I've seen CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #17
You'll excuse me if I find character assassination to be completely repugnant. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #31
Crazy in love? Scurrilous Jun 2013 #24
It really is visceral isn't it? Union Scribe Jun 2013 #28
I'll give it a try. There is a personality called the whistleblower personality tavalon Jun 2013 #30
I loathe ANYONE who breaks a nondisclosure agreement or who has a bad credit score. mhatrw Jun 2013 #32
no one ever wants to face they were a willing participant datasuspect Jun 2013 #35
He'd be hailed as a hero if he would've done this under Bush. Apophis Jun 2013 #36
without a doubt. allin99 Jun 2013 #45
b/c what he did gave their man a hard time... allin99 Jun 2013 #38
I've seen many opinions... some even passionate about the young man. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #39
Show me where I called someone crazy? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #40
Look at the hundreds of threads about him - even just today karynnj Jun 2013 #41
His resume is a lie. randome Jun 2013 #46
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