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Catherina

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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:30 PM Jun 2013

US & NSA Accused of Criminal Privacy Violations in Dozens of Nations [View all]

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Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 09:11 PM PDT
US & NSA Accused of Criminal Privacy Violations in Dozens of Nations - Snowden Blowback

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Actually, it's hundreds of millions of computers, and billions of phone calls, that are routed through the NSA's data collection traps -- from every corner of the world -- every minute of the day. Even though most of them are not communicating to anyone in the US, the Internet's current architecture allows the NSA to capture them all. Potentially, that means every single soul on earth who uses electronic communication is being tracked.

Other nations understood this immediately. They are well aware that their citizens have been caught in the illegal NSA dragnet. This is a completely unacceptable act by the US -- just as it would be if the world's Internet backbone was located in Russia and Moscow was mining the rich personal data of every American citizen.

The United States has inadvertently declared itself to be a rogue, predatory Police State. When the story broke, officials in European capitals demanded immediate answers from their US counterparts and denounced the practice of secretly gathering digital information on Europeans as unacceptable, illegal and a serious violation of basic human rights.

There were heated and outraged discussions at the G-8 summit in Ireland. Eric Holder was flown to Brussels for questioning by the European Union. When Holder left, they were even more outraged. The Germans openly liken the United States actions to the actions of the Cold War-era Stasi.


Here's what the Nations of the World are saying to each other:

The United Nations:

Surveillance programmes that trample on people’s right to privacy in the name of security actually risk damaging the fight against terrorism, UN rights chief Navi Pillay warned Thursday.

“Concerns have been expressed over surveillance regimes adopted by some states without adequate safeguards to protect individuals’ right to privacy,” Pillay told a UN counter-terrorism conference in Geneva.

“If our goal in countering terrorism is to provide for the security of individuals and preserve the rule of law, such practices are... counterproductive,” she said.

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UN Under Secretary General Jeffrey Feltman said: “If we allow compromise on human rights, we are not countering terrorism but letting it get its way.

“When the principles enshrined in the human rights instruments are disrespected, extremism tends to thrive,” said Feltman, who heads the world body’s Counter-Terrorism Implementation Task Force Office (CTITF).

Switzerland:

Swiss Foreign Minister Didier Burkhalter told the conference: “The quest for security must not lead to excessive infringements of the right to privacy.”

Switzerland this week asked Washington for explanations about Snowden’s revelations, especially on an alleged CIA blackmail operation to spy on its banks while he was stationed in Geneva as a diplomatic attache from 2007 to 2009.

“Would we have a better society if honest citizens were subjected to constant surveillance by governments, with all the abuses that this may bring?” Burkhalter said. “In Switzerland’s view, the answer is definitely no.”

In Switzerland, at least one lawmaker has demanded that Internet giant Google be forced to be more transparent about the user data it retains.

Germany:

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Reports about the apparent sophistication and long reach of US surveillance have also caused anxiety in continental Europe, particularly in Germany, where there are memories of the former East Germany’s Stasi intelligence service.

The country’s data commissioner has said he expects the government to put a stop to any American surveillance of German citizens, while worried lawmakers from across the political spectrum have said they want to know more.

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“This affair looks like it will be one of the biggest scandals in data sharing ... Merkel cannot just look away and act like nothing has happened,” added Renate Kuenast, a senior Green lawmaker.

Peter Schaar, Germany's federal data protection commissioner told the Guardian that it was unacceptable that US authorities have access to the data of European citizens "and the level of protection is lower than what is guaranteed for US citizens."

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“I am amazed at the flippant way in which companies such as Google and Microsoft seem to treat their users’ data,” he told the Handelsblatt newspaper. “Anyone who doesn’t want that to happen should switch providers.”

Brussels and the European Union:

European companies using services from U.S. Internet companies must now be concerned about whether they are in breach of EU Data Protection laws. Those laws require companies to ensure only authorized personnel have access to any personal information of individuals.

The fact that U.S. government agencies may be accessing this data could result in many European organizations being unable to satisfy their data protection obligations.

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Fears about the security of data held on U.S. servers have already been a major factor in slow European adoption of "cloud" computing services, in which computing-intensive applications are done by central providers in large server farms.

“You hear more concerns in Europe than in the US, about the Patriot Act in particular. PRISM just enhances those concerns,” said Mark Watts, a partner in London law firm Bristows specialising in privacy and data compliance.

“The main players that are mentioned are much more on the consumer cloud end... but it may be that emotionally it adds to the concerns about US cloud providers,” said Watts, whose clients include several large US internet firms.

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Ireland:

In Dublin, Holder tried to play down Ireland's fears about the extent of the surveillance programme. The top-secret intelligence dragnet operated by the US National Security Agency (NSA) collects and analyses data from Internet and phone users around the world.

Holder said the US government could not force Internet companies to provide information on individuals unless there was an “appropriate and documented” foreign intelligence threat. Holder added that there was an “extensive oversight regime” on the spy programmes.

He took a stern tone on Snowden, saying that, "This case is still under investigation and I can assure you that we will hold accountable the person responsible for those extremely damaging leaks.”

But the 29-year-old Snowden is expected to resist any bid to extradite him from Hong Kong.

Italy:

Leader Antonello Soro, said that the data dragnet "would not be legal in Italy."

It would be contrary to the principles of our legislation and would represent a very serious violation.

Australia:

Fears about the security of data held on U.S. servers have already been a major factor in slow European adoption of "cloud" computing services, in which computing-intensive applications are done by central providers in large server farms.

Unease over a clandestine US data collection programme has rippled across the Pacific to two of Washington’s major allies, Australia and New Zealand, raising concerns about whether they have cooperated with secret electronic data mining.

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"There is a massive global trend to cloud services," said opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull, noting that the vast majority of providers were U.S. firms.

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Australia’s influential Greens party called on the government to clarify whether Canberra’s own intelligence agencies had access to the NSA-gathered data, which according to Britain’s Guardian newspaper included search history, emails, file transfers and live chats.

“We’ll examine carefully any implications in what has emerged for the security and privacy of Australians,” Australia’s Foreign Minister Bob Carr said in a television interview on Sunday, when asked whether Canberra had cooperated with Washington’s secret initiative.

New Zealand:

Responding to the government-surveillance controversy engulfing New Zealand’s security-alliance partners in Washington,

Prime Minister John Key said Tuesday his country doesn’t use foreign intelligence agencies to circumvent local laws and illegally spy on its citizens.

But Key declined to say exactly what help New Zealand does get from agencies like the US National Security Agency. He said any help the South Pacific nation has received from foreign intelligence agencies would have been lawful and in the country’s national interest.

Key was responding in Parliament to questions raised by opposition lawmakers. They’ve raised fears the NSA may have spied on New Zealanders under an intelligence-sharing alliance known as Five Eyes that includes the US, Canada, the UK and Australia.

Revelations in recent days about US spy programs that track phone and Internet messages around the world have created an international uproar.

Canada:

In Canada, Privacy Commissioner Jennifer Stoddart said Monday she would look into the implications for her country, saying the scope of information reportedly collected raises “significant concerns.”

In 2011, I was on a panel, organized by the security company RSA, with two retired National Security Agency directors, Michael Hayden and Kenneth Minihan. During the course of our debate, I raised concerns, as the only non-American on the panel, that their plans and preferences for having the NSA secure cyberspace for the rest of us were not exactly reassuring. To this, Minihan replied that I should not describe myself as "Canadian" but rather "North American."

As jarring as his response was, the fact of the matter is when it comes to communications, he's right. Practically speaking, there is no border separating Canadian from U.S. telecommunications -- though that's not true the other way around. Primarily, this one-way dependence is a product of history and economics. Canadians' communications are inextricably connected to networks south of the border and subject to the laws and practices of the U.S. over which we, as foreigners, have no say or control.

Norway:

Norwegian lawmakers debated a ban on the use by public officials of Google's and Microsoft's cloud computing services. Although shelved temporarily, this type of debate will almost certainly be resurrected and spread throughout Europe and other regions as the full scope of U.S.-based "foreign directed" wiretapping and metadata collection sinks in.

Finland:

Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer at Finnish software security firm F-Secure, said outrage was the appropriate response to the US revelations.

“What we have in our hands now is the first concrete proof of US-based high-tech companies participating with the NSA in wholesale surveillance on us, the rest of the world, the non-American, you and me,” he said.

But he added there was little that individuals could do, with precious few alternatives to the popular services offered by US firms Facebook, Google or Apple.

“The long term solution is that Europe should have a dot.com industry just like the United States, which would give us economic benefits but more importantly would make us independent of the wholesale surveillance of the US intelligence agencies.”

Hong Kong:

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In a joint letter to the US president, they (Pro-democracy lawmakers Gary Fan and Claudia Mo) said Snowden may have “done liberal democracy a service by stimulating serious discussion in many countries of the extent to which surveillance is acceptable”.

“Obama should consider letting him go,” Mo said in a press conference, while urging Beijing not to interfere if an extradition case goes to the Hong Kong courts.

“This is shocking because while the US has accused China of hacking, they have also been doing the same thing, particularly when Hong Kong ordinary citizens are involved,” Fan told reporters.

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China’s Internet security chief, who told state media that Beijing has amassed huge amounts of data on US-based hacking.

Air Force Col. Dai Xu, known for the hawkish opinions he voices on his Sina Weibo microblog, wrote: “I have always said, the United States’ accusations about Chinese hacking attacks have always been a case of a thief crying for another thief to be caught.”
The ACLU:

The American Civil Liberties Union branded the program, authorized by a top secret court order, as “beyond Orwellian.”

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The ACLU and Yale Law School's Media Freedom and Information Clinic filed a motion on Monday asking for secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court opinions on the Patriot Act to be made public in the light of the Guardian's revelations.

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Finally, the ACLU is going to court.

On Monday it filed a motion with the "Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) seeking the release of secret court opinions on the Patriot Act's Section 215, which has been interpreted to authorize this warrantless and suspicionless collection of phone records.

And on Tuesday it filed a lawsuit charging that the program [the NSA's mass surveillance of phone calls] violates Americans' constitutional rights of free speech, association, and privacy.


Executive Summary:


As we can see, the American Bubble has no awareness or perspective of how Edward Snowden's whistleblowing has affected the entire world and the future of its digital communications infrastructure. Americans think it is all about them -- but the fact is, the global community doesn't care how the US treats its own citizens. This is completely immaterial to the sovereign security crisis the world is actually facing as a result of Snowden's revelations.

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In the US, where the concerns of other sovereign nations are not a factor, pressure is growing at the White House to explain whether there is effective congressional oversight of the domestic spying programs revealed by Snowden. This is a conversation that the government cannot have with the American people. Every time they make a statement, the global blowback gets worse.

The administration hopes that the American public will be easily distracted by the drama of charging Snowden with espionage and the years long extradition kabuki. This way, they can stonewall the people's inquiries with "ongoing case" and "national security" tropes -- until the new season of American Idol begins again in September.

Personally, I don't believe that any elected figure at the Federal Government has the will or the authority to stop the NSA, even if that was a desired goal. It was a different America when over-reach like like J. Edgar Hoover's could be somewhat contained. Everything changed after September 11th, which was certainly a fortuitous event for the Neocons and the signers of PNAC.

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If you are inside the US, it really doesn't matter. The immediate future is set. The ball is in the global court. American businesses will be the first to feel the blowback..

The NSA revelations pose an immediate economic problem for US cloud providers on the international market -- the big name telecoms. Richard Stiennon, chief research analyst at IT-Harvest, wrote in Forbes that this kind of, "vast foreign and domestic spying & threatens the global competitiveness of U.S. tech companies."

Internet traffic to the United States from Asia, Africa and even Latin America has been in decline, a trend that is almost certainly going to accelerate as those regions ramp up their own network exchange points and local services to minimize dependence on networks and media services under US control.

The global imperative is to contain and isolate the criminal NSA data-mining exploits solely to the United States. That is, to quarantine this Orwellian infection to North America.

That's what the world is talking about today.



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Two almost immediate effects nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1
What is TTP? Alameda Jun 2013 #10
Here nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #11
Thanks..I did see that, but Alameda Jun 2013 #37
A lot of it is over copy right nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #38
At least the latter is a positive development (nm) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #24
So there is some good to come out of this then? I pray it derails it. nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #25
Let us hope TTP dies Taverner Jun 2013 #28
TPP: Trans Pacific Partnership treaty ReRe Jun 2013 #42
This will have no impact on copyright Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #43
to read later snagglepuss Jun 2013 #2
k&r TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #3
wow... FirstLight Jun 2013 #4
That's right... ReRe Jun 2013 #44
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #5
I find it inteesting the link title says the cause is "Snowden blowback" instead of US/NSA spying peacebird Jun 2013 #6
powerful commentary. If we're too busy, distracted, partisan, downright stupid xiamiam Jun 2013 #7
Agree marions ghost Jun 2013 #12
Some of those have been railing about this slow move to hell nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #13
The Patriot Act marions ghost Jun 2013 #18
I did, have been calling the enabling act since nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #21
The so-called "Patriot Act"... ReRe Jun 2013 #45
Amen TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #26
It really doesn't help when our government officials, including the President, WestStar Jun 2013 #8
Court cases beginning also. This one in the UK by a civil rights group whose rights were violated Catherina Jun 2013 #9
Over the past week or so... ReRe Jun 2013 #46
K&R G_j Jun 2013 #14
Americans usually think it's ok to spy on foreigners adric mutelovic Jun 2013 #15
Winning hearts and minds. Downwinder Jun 2013 #16
K&R Important Post! usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #17
I love it railsback Jun 2013 #19
Not only that, but I find their comments to be reasonable and entirely consistent Number23 Jun 2013 #31
'Unhinged' is the definitive term. railsback Jun 2013 #36
Are you completely mad? sibelian Jun 2013 #52
Your grip on facts is only rivalled by your grip on reality. Number23 Jun 2013 #61
K&R liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #20
I guess they haven't been told that Snowden had fuckin' boxes in Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #22
Is Linkasaurus Rex who I think it is? Th1onein Jun 2013 #29
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #23
Uh oh. This is going to hit Big Business' bottom line. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #27
Good. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #30
so much for land of the free xiamiam Jun 2013 #32
so true SHRED Jun 2013 #34
Our privatized, corporatized, for-profit government is running amok SHRED Jun 2013 #33
Ya don't say??? TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #35
Why the fuck would that happen? Snowden only leaked about US. Not Switzerland's Onyx DevonRex Jun 2013 #48
You're wildly overstating Onyx's capabilities. nt Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #50
LOL!!! Remember, Snowden can bring down the global intelligence network in half a day. Alone. DevonRex Jun 2013 #55
I didn't realize that you were being sarcastic. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #56
Except that it is an IXP... DevonRex Jun 2013 #60
Here in the United State we debate the right to privacy exists for our own citizens,... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #39
They've always known it...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #40
Quick! Somebody turn off the lights! The roaches are being seen! Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #47
Oh, right. Were they now? sibelian Jun 2013 #53
G.Q American Public doesn't know this.... ReRe Jun 2013 #49
Is there any reason why these countries cannot create their own servers so they do not have to use sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #51
No, and they're on it. As well as the links between the servers Catherina Jun 2013 #58
The USA gets a lesson on democracy tblue Jun 2013 #54
"Blinded by our presumed exceptionalism" marions ghost Jun 2013 #62
But I thought Savannahmann Jun 2013 #57
K&R felix_numinous Jun 2013 #59
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