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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:30 PM Jun 2013

Internet anti-Greenwald agitators are playing some folks for Fools [View all]

It is sad that anyone would fall for this sort of nihilistic misuse of other human beings, but it appears that there is a thing going around the internet juxtaposing Glenn Greenwald saying he didn't know Snowden's name or employer until recently, and an earlier tweet where he said he had been involved with Snowden since February.

Amusingly, the internet sources presenting this prima faciae case of Greenwald being caught in a lie know that they (the internet folks) are lying by encouraging credulous readers to overlook the fact that in this age or miracles and wonder it is actually possible for people to communicate without conveying their name.

For instance, some people have been talking to Cthulu2016 for a long time on many topics, yet do not know my name or where I work.

OOOooooOoooo. Amazing.

Here. Read this. For real. There will be a quiz.

But Greenwald told me that when Snowden had initially contacted him, Snowden hadn’t even shared his name or where he worked — he’d simply said he had explosive documents that Greenwald (whose reporting on leak investigations and civil liberties abuses was already widely known) would want to see. At that stage, Greenwald said, their conversations only concerned how to set up an encryption system that Snowden wanted in order to facilitate private communication of documents with him. The system was not set up until several months later, Greenwald said.

It was only in May — and not before — that Snowden told him who he was, who he worked for (at that point he identified himself as affiliated with the NSA) and what sort of documents he had to share, Greenwald says. It wasn’t until June — when Greenwald visited Snowden in Hong Kong — that Snowden told him he worked specifically for Booz Allen, Greenwald adds.

“We had early conversations about setting up encryption, so we worked early on to set that up,” Greenwald says. “We didn’t work on any documents. I didn’t even know Edward Snowden’s name or where he worked until after he was in Hong Kong with the documents. Anyone who is claiming that somehow I worked with him to get those documents or helped him is just lying.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/24/glenn-greenwald-pushes-back-hard-on-latest-edward-snowden-revelations/

I said there would be a quiz. It's one question.

How intellectually dishonest would a person have to be to think that reposting a tweet of Greenwald saying he had been in touch with Snowden months ago would contradict Greenwald saying he learned Snowden's name only recently?
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A link to Greenwald's tweet - he's worked with Snowden since FEBRUARY, below Tx4obama Jun 2013 #1
Said the professional butt-coverer! MNBrewer Jun 2013 #2
1) Month corrected. Thanks. 2) You are utterly dishonest. cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #3
Taking into consideration what they are trying to defend, lying is the only option left for them. idwiyo Jun 2013 #5
Indeed. I'm thinking Greenwald finally figured out his civil liability, and might have msanthrope Jun 2013 #6
How about as a lawyer, leftynyc Jun 2013 #65
I don't think he has a license to lawyer anywhere, and more importantly, that obligation you msanthrope Jun 2013 #68
Knowing about a crime leftynyc Jun 2013 #69
no, he was not acting as a lawyer then still_one Jun 2013 #78
So? I read that when he tweeted it originally and hadn't forgotten it. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #11
But he never said he knew who he was, did he? He did work with him. Snowden had an internet handle sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #46
Let the backpedalling begin! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #4
Cthulu, only someone whose name is "impossible for truedelphi Jun 2013 #7
The boggers have jumped the shark Doctor_J Jun 2013 #8
I disagree with Obama on his marijuana policy. MattFromKY Jun 2013 #10
I think there should be a trial. burnodo Jun 2013 #38
nevermind.. one_voice Jun 2013 #18
"the boggers"? To whom are you referring? KittyWampus Jun 2013 #22
I believe he is referring to Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #52
I thought it was slang for "blind obedient groupies". Don't they like follow the bus around Dragonfli Jun 2013 #54
Has Snowden come up with that Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #55
I see an issue with an out of control surveillance industry merged with an out of control Dragonfli Jun 2013 #57
Out of control how? Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #58
Do you ever read? The news is all over the world, men who worked directly for NSA Dragonfli Jun 2013 #59
When you miss a point Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #81
I wish there were leftynyc Jun 2013 #66
"possible for people to communicate without conveying their name" MattFromKY Jun 2013 #9
Of course it was pre-planned. All Whistle Blowers pre-plan how to get the information they have sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #47
Can you post the part leftynyc Jun 2013 #67
Actual, although it was 'secret' up to recently, there is a ruling by the FISA court itself that sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #70
I asked for the link leftynyc Jun 2013 #71
Surely you can find the Constitution on Google? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #73
I just knew you were spouting bullshit leftynyc Jun 2013 #74
Domestic spying is illegal. Show me where that has changed. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #75
LOL - and where is THAT leftynyc Jun 2013 #76
OK, I'm going to be horrible now and look like a bit of a pedant. sibelian Jun 2013 #56
I feel the same way about "irregardless" (that one drives me bonkers) Dragonfli Jun 2013 #60
"Irregardless" of your admonition, they will continue to do it! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #80
Greenwald conspired with a Spy to attain National Secrets. He's toast. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #12
Yes, well Hissyspit Jun 2013 #13
why did Glenn delete his tweet about working with Snowden since February MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #14
He didn't, as far as I can tell. I looked it up on Twitter just a little while ago. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jun 2013 #20
Stop. Liar time. The Link Jun 2013 #23
Did you mean to respond to Mjolnr? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #37
Either or. Just verifying that the tweet had not been deleted. The Link Jun 2013 #62
"Have at thee!" nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #26
Where did you get this information from? With no credible source to back up your sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #48
I know your real name. And where you work. DirkGently Jun 2013 #16
Great,...now the NSA has you tagged as owning a pressure cooker. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #33
I just put them on IGNORE. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #17
So you are not that monster that causes insanity at Rackham? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #19
It's sad some on DU can't see ratfucking when it happens. And for you to use the term KittyWampus Jun 2013 #21
you keep using that term like you actually know what it means frylock Jun 2013 #24
That was my reaction too. truedelphi Jun 2013 #50
these people are still convinced this is some nefarious plot cooked up by karl rove.. frylock Jun 2013 #72
KittyWampus suspicions = facts cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #28
What is the root of your apparent beastiality fixation? Do you even know who ratfuckers were? Dragonfli Jun 2013 #44
Snowden has been convicted already?? That was fast! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #49
Yes! "The press has special protections in democracies and for very good reason." Demit Jun 2013 #61
That word does not mean what you think it means. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #51
Perhaps there is something else about Greenwald that inspires such hatred and derision? The Link Jun 2013 #25
+1 QC Jun 2013 #79
This. Starry Messenger Jun 2013 #83
Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #27
Oh God... you actually went with THAT??? cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #31
Yes, ProSense Jun 2013 #34
?????? Number23 Jun 2013 #53
SOP for cautious leakers who contact journalists Babel_17 Jun 2013 #29
Deep Throat probably did. (I think he knew Woodward) cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #32
Wikipedia basically says yes Babel_17 Jun 2013 #36
Personally, I thought it smelled like a big ol' steamin' cup o' frantic. No surprise though. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #30
Greenwald Lies, Snowden Hides.. Grassy Knoll Jun 2013 #35
What lie? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #39
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #40
No, I'm just asking questions like a normal person at DU Hissyspit Jun 2013 #41
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jun 2013 #43
Eh, very good, but satire is too faint to expect anyone to get it. ucrdem Jun 2013 #45
Here's the real satire: Hissyspit Jun 2013 #82
Oooh, internet anti-Greenwald agitators... SidDithers Jun 2013 #63
Well I saw a new claim in a reply to a post of mine Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #64
QUITE intellectually dishonest, chthulhu. sibelian Jun 2013 #77
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