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Fawke Em

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50. We certainly didn't used to be so frightened.

Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:33 PM

Jun 2013

If this spying worked so well and was so necessary, why didn't stop the Boston bombings? If we're to believe what we've been told, the FBI and the CIA knew the older brother and still couldn't keep an eye on him? (The younger brother, I fear, was bullied by a murderous elder sibling and probably would have never done this on his own, if they are, indeed the perpetrators. I say that because we haven't had a trial and he hasn't pleaded guilty - I do believe in "presumed innocent until proven guilty.&quot

I'm assuming the NSA is more interested in Occupy and Anonymous than they are real potential dangers. We know they're far more likely to keep tabs on Code Pink or recruiting would-be Muslim "terrorists" for the FBI than they are in foreign sleeper cells.

Actually, since my husband worked with the NSA for years, I know the answer to that question.

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Secy. Kerry to CNN on Snowden: "People may die as a consequence of what this man did." [View all] Scurrilous Jun 2013 OP

If this was not that predictable. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1

Oh, Kerry. bigwillq Jun 2013 #2

Yeah - good reason to make it easier to attack karynnj Jun 2013 #8

You're right. bigwillq Jun 2013 #25

Yep, exactly. They don't want the bodies on their mind. They don't want to think okaawhatever Jun 2013 #70

Why help them? That's what Snowden has done. pnwmom Jun 2013 #97

And hundreds of thousands HAVE died from what this man did hobbit709 Jun 2013 #3

That's the past. We're looking forward. magellan Jun 2013 #100

'Nuff Said. RedCappedBandit Jun 2013 #130

Ohz noez!!1!11!! Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #4

lol. but arrgh. allin99 Jun 2013 #91

Complete bollocks dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #5

Bingo!!!! premium Jun 2013 #63

Thank you. 840high Jun 2013 #128

they said the same thing about his guy markiv Jun 2013 #6

I supported Kerry when they accused him of being a traitor. kentuck Jun 2013 #11

not anyone, but it sure did Kerry markiv Jun 2013 #16

He has had power for decades - continually growing karynnj Jun 2013 #80

he had some money. more than most of the population will ever see. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #81

it's bs to compare him to snowden, Kerry is more like those who are speaking out against SExual JI7 Jun 2013 #33

Kerry fought and was wounded for his country VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #54

hahhaha, comparing what KErry did to Snowden ? Kerry faced those he wanted to change JI7 Jun 2013 #31

he didnt have to break a clearence to get the truth out markiv Jun 2013 #34

Kerry's testimony was more than that - and he told America many truths karynnj Jun 2013 #84

Well, he is a statesman and former member of congress! alp227 Jun 2013 #101

They're speaking of 1971 when he was a young highly decorated war vet. karynnj Jun 2013 #104

Kerry is a douchbagasourus? Kolesar Jun 2013 #53

I just realized that Markiv won't be answering because he doesn't play nice Kolesar Jun 2013 #60

^^^^^This^^^^^ +1000 n/t ljm2002 Jun 2013 #69

He violated no laws in telling the truth before the SFRC karynnj Jun 2013 #87

And, people *do* die as a consequence of what senior elected officials do, say, and the bike man Jun 2013 #7

Kerry is a man that has given his life to his country, during good times and bad... MattFromKY Jun 2013 #9

ditto DURHAM D Jun 2013 #14

Same here. n/t FSogol Jun 2013 #21

+1 politicasista Jun 2013 #22

+1. graham4anything Jun 2013 #38

This. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #26

+1 treestar Jun 2013 #30

Yup madokie Jun 2013 #32

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #36

And what, pray tell, does that have to do with his professional life? nt MattFromKY Jun 2013 #41

About the same as Snowden's "snotty nose." Fawke Em Jun 2013 #55

A true American hero, and there haven't been that many at his level BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #40

Now I see why I don't come here as often. Fawke Em Jun 2013 #48

It's about people getting killed so that too-young-to-shave can get his jollies...eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #58

Why do you make the assumption that those that oppose Snowden support spying? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #59

They support Obama burnodo Jun 2013 #73

So you mean anyone who supports Obama is now a traitor by your estimation? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #103

it's "purity" to think the 4th amendment is worth something? burnodo Jun 2013 #110

So now anyone that supports Obama is against the 4th Amendment by your strict standards? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #124

What HE said ^^^ VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #56

+1 Some of the other posts here are embarrassing to even read Hekate Jun 2013 #66

Thank God for the ignore function. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #76

I tried doing that for less than 24 hours this weekend, and realized it was impractical Hekate Jun 2013 #83

Me too karynnj Jun 2013 #88

Ditto here too Yukari Yakumo Jun 2013 #108

So it seems that your opinions depend on who you trust? sibelian Jun 2013 #111

Really? nebenaube Jun 2013 #126

people die EVERY DAY because of what the government Kerry represents does.... mike_c Jun 2013 #10

Well said! City Lights Jun 2013 #27

+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #51

Tremendous post. bigwillq Jun 2013 #71

+1 burnodo Jun 2013 #74

Nailed it. premium Jun 2013 #77

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #82

Love ya, Mike_C. You cut right to it. nt Bonobo Jun 2013 #122

Thank you! LibAsHell Jun 2013 #123

We are angry because we feel we have been used in the worst fashion by the admin of this country The Straight Story Jun 2013 #12

Kind of like what Dick fucking Cheney did? Autumn Jun 2013 #13

How many people died because of Bush, Cheney et al? n/t malaise Jun 2013 #15

So by using Kerry's statement... Earth_First Jun 2013 #17

That's okay, Secy. Kerry, because it's free market killing. If you were a principled person, you'd patrice Jun 2013 #18

TY. Would rather celebrate and pray for a REAL hero politicasista Jun 2013 #19

he was referring to dick cheney, correct? spanone Jun 2013 #20

I'll ask again 90-percent Jun 2013 #23

I was curious too Hydra Jun 2013 #93

Think about it, this is from surveillance of everybody. bemildred Jun 2013 #115

Sigh. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #24

We certainly didn't used to be so frightened. Fawke Em Jun 2013 #50

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #28

Well, it's true. shenmue Jun 2013 #29

Yeah. Sure. Apophis Jun 2013 #35

So now people here are attacking John Kerry? jazzimov Jun 2013 #37

Of course!!! LeftInTX Jun 2013 #42

you must be new here JI7 Jun 2013 #46

Polticians can be replaced. sibelian Jun 2013 #116

John Kerry above all knows the twaddle he is speaking. Now HE is the Power to whom Truth must WinkyDink Jun 2013 #118

Americans are most likely to die because of East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #39

Die of embarrassment perhaps. dkf Jun 2013 #43

Gee John, Americans are DYING RIGHT NOW by the truckload Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #44

True - and Kerry fought on the right side of each of those issues for 28 years in the Senate karynnj Jun 2013 #98

Complete, total and utter hyperbolic bullshit.. truebrit71 Jun 2013 #45

That's it exactly. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #68

I'd like to be protected from assholes poisoning our drinking water with fracking fluids. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #47

The scumbag Snowden is a traitor, sold his country for whatever, his actions intentional. Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #49

Wow... Fawke Em Jun 2013 #52

It seems to be in vogue lately Hydra Jun 2013 #95

Partisan politics. sibelian Jun 2013 #114

You are on the wrong side of this Sen Kerry Marrah_G Jun 2013 #57

You would make a great secretary of state Kolesar Jun 2013 #61

LOL n/t politicasista Jun 2013 #72

It's a lot like dealing with the mouthy Bush backers eight years ago...eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #78

Bingo politicasista Jun 2013 #102

Real people are dead because of the cuts caused by the bloated cost of this illegal boondoggle... kickysnana Jun 2013 #62

Senator Kerry, if how the government "protected" us from the Boston Bombers is any Th1onein Jun 2013 #64

AUMF, Sen. Kerry? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #65

It's "inappropriate" for people to be concerned with privacy?! Skip Intro Jun 2013 #67

Kerry's doing a "Colin Powell" right now. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #75

Observe the incomplete-sentences-unfocused-thoughts phenomenon Kolesar Jun 2013 #79

Not to worry. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #85

I followed it Hydra Jun 2013 #96

You followed it? Hell, you probably wrote it Kolesar Jun 2013 #119

Lol Hydra Jun 2013 #120

Shouldn't outsource national security. Rex Jun 2013 #86

But, we've known it all since 2006!11!1 Nothing new!!! morningfog Jun 2013 #89

.... glinda Jun 2013 #90

Now they are just covering their asses. Phlem Jun 2013 #92

Well we definitely know...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #94

FFS Hydra Jun 2013 #99

People may be dying as a result of what the NSA is doing. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #105

Voting to go to war in Iraq was a far more dangerous act than this could ever be. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #106

+1000000000 Phlem Jun 2013 #107

This is becoming maddening. MelungeonWoman Jun 2013 #109

And under the bus he goes...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #112

Ugh. sibelian Jun 2013 #113

"because terrorists may now know how to protect themselves in some way or another" = SAME WinkyDink Jun 2013 #117

I really can't understand why anyones surprised. sibelian Jun 2013 #121

I hope Kerry goes after Snowden even harder than when he went after all of Bush's treason. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #125

democracy may die as a consequence of the relentlessly growing surveillance industrial complex Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #127

Same goes for John Roberts. aquart Jun 2013 #129

Someone on DU REALLY doesn't like where this tread is going and tried to shut it down. idwiyo Jun 2013 #131