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Hissyspit

(45,790 posts)
72. Thank you for all that lack of substance.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jun 2013

By the way, I've been here 10 years, reading Greenwald's blog for almost as long, and following his Twitter account for almost as long.

It's not so much Greenwald I care about as people here making shit up and using fallacious arguments like "if he got a lawyer, he is guilty of something."

I can't imagine why Greenwald would want a lawyer:

http://www.guardiannews.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/24/surveillance-us-national-security

In early January, email messages from HBGary Federal show plans for a meeting with Booz Allen Hamilton, apparently regarding Barr's plans against WikiLeaks and Anonymous. At this point, no one was buying Barr's scheme – even as he bragged to the Financial Times, on 4 February 2012, that he had used Facebook, Twitter and other social media to identify the "leaders" of Anonymous.

Barr believed that had piqued the interest of the "FBI, the Director of National Intelligence, and the US military". In fact, it had merely made him a marked man: two days later, as Wired reported, Anonymous "took down [HBGary Federal's] website, stole his emails, deleted the company's backup data, trashed Barr's Twitter account and remotely wiped his iPad." For his part, Brown created Project PM, "a crowd-sourced wiki focused on government intelligence contractors" to delve through the tens of thousands of emails taken from HBGary Federal's servers.

A critical element in the story concerns the fact that, according to one of the leaked emails, the companies were hoping that "if they can show that WikiLeaks is hosting data in certain countries it will make prosecution easier." The hacked emails also revealed, Forbes reported, that Barr was hoping to sell the information on Anonymous members to the FBI. The fact that Barr was stoking interest among security agencies with a dossier of supposed Anonymous members containing incorrect names meant that innocent people might have been jailed if he had succeeded in his scheme.

Barr resigned and HBGary Federal was subsequently shuttered. But the story doesn't end there. In July 2011, the Anonymous-linked "AntiSec" raided Booz Allen Hamilton and made off with 90,000 emails. One allegation that emerged from the cache was that BAH had been working with HBGary Federal "to develop software that would allow for the creation of multiple fake social media profiles to infiltrate discussion groups and manipulate opinion on the sites and discredit people, as well as to match personas online with offline identities."

Within days of the Team Themis scandal, Palantir issued a statement announcing that it was cutting ties with HBGary Federal and issued an apology to Greenwald.

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i almost feel sorry for him JI7 Jun 2013 #1
Wonder if the Ecuadoran Embassy in Brazil flamingdem Jun 2013 #2
Oh boy. It's begining to fall apart for Greenwald. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #3
And, who would take his Tweets seriously Cha Jun 2013 #25
what!?!? BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #43
Really sheshe2 Jun 2013 #58
read closely BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #87
Oh what a tangled web we weave sheshe2 Jun 2013 #34
You are a fool,. a reporter should flee your government? Are you a corporate thug? Civilization2 Jun 2013 #50
No, "you are a fool". Cha Jun 2013 #77
Sounds like he is looking to distance himself from Snowden still_one Jun 2013 #4
K&R n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #5
Keep after him, ProSense! Destroy! Kill! Kill! Octafish Jun 2013 #6
I'm becoming aware of many DU-ers I would not want on my "team" grasswire Jun 2013 #10
Nothing to do with punish BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #22
What GG stands for: ucrdem Jun 2013 #11
Wow. Remember to use it against him when they tie him to the stake. Octafish Jun 2013 #15
Sunstein left the Obama admin last year and burning at the stake ucrdem Jun 2013 #20
There are claims in that post that the OP refuses to provide evidence. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #47
It gets obvious... Octafish Jun 2013 #59
"Faster, ProSense. Kill! Kill!" Scurrilous Jun 2013 #13
Good reference flamingdem Jun 2013 #17
Just how much freedom of the press? Sheepshank Jun 2013 #28
I love the smell of backpedaling in the morning. ucrdem Jun 2013 #7
Bullshit. Anyone have his tweet bragging that he talked to him in February? CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #8
YES! Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #9
WOW Greenwald has cooked his own goose! :) n/t Tx4obama Jun 2013 #14
I just made a screengrab flamingdem Jun 2013 #18
so did I... Kahuna Jun 2013 #39
Greenwald doesn't mention his name in that tweet. Demit Jun 2013 #27
Bombshell......... Greenwald adds sauce to his own cooked goose... Historic NY Jun 2013 #63
Oh, I already posted downthread but you asked, Cake.. Cha Jun 2013 #23
On the twitter thread it says that Greenwald deleted this post! flamingdem Jun 2013 #35
LOL! he pulled a Wiener. Whisp Jun 2013 #37
snort! flamingdem Jun 2013 #38
If he deleted it, why did I just find it in his feed? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #41
Except for the fact that it is a big giant fucking lie... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #44
I don't see it in his actual feed. joshcryer Jun 2013 #91
You have to click on "all" and then you get the replies. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #95
He didn't delete it. It's still there in his feed. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #40
More lies. Here is the direct link to the tweet... not deleted. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #42
You have made a false statement. Will you retract it? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #64
huh? BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #51
I've communicated with you on DU and I don't know your name or where you work. And no, Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #48
keep mincing those words and you'll get the answer you seek. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author BenzoDia Jun 2013 #12
Glen, you gonna tell us who suckered you in? Whisp Jun 2013 #16
He wanted to be in pictures flamingdem Jun 2013 #19
SOS of Cha Jun 2013 #24
He coulda been a contender! MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #83
Yeah, and that little fucker is a BIG LIAR Cha Jun 2013 #21
Nailed it. ucrdem Jun 2013 #26
Um, none of this proves conspiracy. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #29
Who said anything about conspiracy? ucrdem Jun 2013 #31
That is what charges would be based on. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #32
This has got to be one of the most bizarre threads I have ever seen... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #45
Yeah, why mince words and Cha Jun 2013 #30
Where is the lie? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #33
You will never get an answer because there isn't one. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #49
wow BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #55
"we are all on the same team including Glenn": ucrdem Jun 2013 #61
really? BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #89
good catch ProSense warrior1 Jun 2013 #36
I've been communicating with you for years and I don't know your name or where you work. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #46
WTF? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #52
We communicate... here on DU... I don't know your name or where you work. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #53
LOL! ProSense Jun 2013 #54
Instead of laughing could you explain Hissyspit Jun 2013 #57
No, and ProSense Jun 2013 #60
You mean the people who say GG deleted a tweet he didn't delete? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #62
Why are you asking me to explain other people's comments? ProSense Jun 2013 #65
I didn't. You said people were understanding Hissyspit Jun 2013 #70
Right, but how does that make me responsible for other people's comments? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #71
Then why did you laugh at LA's post? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #73
What's the problem? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #67
What a dumb response. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #68
Greenwald has lawyered up . . . and that ain't for nothing!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #69
Thank you for all that lack of substance. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #72
Hahaha!!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #75
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #80
Well, you aren't supposed to be so emotional over something you can't control. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #92
Though not one to make definitive predictions... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #56
jason leopold, you can add one more. eom Whisp Jun 2013 #66
Say you destroy Snowden's image, what does that get Obama? Skip Intro Jun 2013 #74
psst... there's this thing folks use all the time online called nicknames/aliases usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #76
Do you really believe that Snowden didn't reveal that he was an NSA subcontractor? grantcart Jun 2013 #79
As a journalist, why would he want to publish anything based on treestar Jun 2013 #86
Could he not know where he worked and still know he was an NSA subcontractor? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2013 #90
He had to know something concrete. He didn't make all those preparations based on nothing. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #93
Or not. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #96
The point is if he didn't know its because he purposefully kept it ambiguous while he was getting grantcart Jun 2013 #99
Prosense, they are calling you intellectually dishonest on another thread. Th1onein Jun 2013 #78
I welcome their hatred. ProSense Jun 2013 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jun 2013 #85
Glenn's getting awful weasely. He was so smug just a day or two ago. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #81
Would this make Greenwald complicit? joshcryer Jun 2013 #88
Who knows? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #94
DU lawyers. joshcryer Jun 2013 #97
Wait, I Thought Greenwald Thoroughly Vetted Snowden Skraxx Jun 2013 #98
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