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In reply to the discussion: Greenwald: I Didn’t Even Know Snowden’s Name Until He Was In Hong Kong [View all]Hissyspit
(45,790 posts)72. Thank you for all that lack of substance.
By the way, I've been here 10 years, reading Greenwald's blog for almost as long, and following his Twitter account for almost as long.
It's not so much Greenwald I care about as people here making shit up and using fallacious arguments like "if he got a lawyer, he is guilty of something."
I can't imagine why Greenwald would want a lawyer:
http://www.guardiannews.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/24/surveillance-us-national-security
In early January, email messages from HBGary Federal show plans for a meeting with Booz Allen Hamilton, apparently regarding Barr's plans against WikiLeaks and Anonymous. At this point, no one was buying Barr's scheme even as he bragged to the Financial Times, on 4 February 2012, that he had used Facebook, Twitter and other social media to identify the "leaders" of Anonymous.
Barr believed that had piqued the interest of the "FBI, the Director of National Intelligence, and the US military". In fact, it had merely made him a marked man: two days later, as Wired reported, Anonymous "took down [HBGary Federal's] website, stole his emails, deleted the company's backup data, trashed Barr's Twitter account and remotely wiped his iPad." For his part, Brown created Project PM, "a crowd-sourced wiki focused on government intelligence contractors" to delve through the tens of thousands of emails taken from HBGary Federal's servers.
A critical element in the story concerns the fact that, according to one of the leaked emails, the companies were hoping that "if they can show that WikiLeaks is hosting data in certain countries it will make prosecution easier." The hacked emails also revealed, Forbes reported, that Barr was hoping to sell the information on Anonymous members to the FBI. The fact that Barr was stoking interest among security agencies with a dossier of supposed Anonymous members containing incorrect names meant that innocent people might have been jailed if he had succeeded in his scheme.
Barr resigned and HBGary Federal was subsequently shuttered. But the story doesn't end there. In July 2011, the Anonymous-linked "AntiSec" raided Booz Allen Hamilton and made off with 90,000 emails. One allegation that emerged from the cache was that BAH had been working with HBGary Federal "to develop software that would allow for the creation of multiple fake social media profiles to infiltrate discussion groups and manipulate opinion on the sites and discredit people, as well as to match personas online with offline identities."
Within days of the Team Themis scandal, Palantir issued a statement announcing that it was cutting ties with HBGary Federal and issued an apology to Greenwald.
Barr believed that had piqued the interest of the "FBI, the Director of National Intelligence, and the US military". In fact, it had merely made him a marked man: two days later, as Wired reported, Anonymous "took down [HBGary Federal's] website, stole his emails, deleted the company's backup data, trashed Barr's Twitter account and remotely wiped his iPad." For his part, Brown created Project PM, "a crowd-sourced wiki focused on government intelligence contractors" to delve through the tens of thousands of emails taken from HBGary Federal's servers.
A critical element in the story concerns the fact that, according to one of the leaked emails, the companies were hoping that "if they can show that WikiLeaks is hosting data in certain countries it will make prosecution easier." The hacked emails also revealed, Forbes reported, that Barr was hoping to sell the information on Anonymous members to the FBI. The fact that Barr was stoking interest among security agencies with a dossier of supposed Anonymous members containing incorrect names meant that innocent people might have been jailed if he had succeeded in his scheme.
Barr resigned and HBGary Federal was subsequently shuttered. But the story doesn't end there. In July 2011, the Anonymous-linked "AntiSec" raided Booz Allen Hamilton and made off with 90,000 emails. One allegation that emerged from the cache was that BAH had been working with HBGary Federal "to develop software that would allow for the creation of multiple fake social media profiles to infiltrate discussion groups and manipulate opinion on the sites and discredit people, as well as to match personas online with offline identities."
Within days of the Team Themis scandal, Palantir issued a statement announcing that it was cutting ties with HBGary Federal and issued an apology to Greenwald.
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Greenwald: I Didn’t Even Know Snowden’s Name Until He Was In Hong Kong [View all]
ProSense
Jun 2013
OP
You are a fool,. a reporter should flee your government? Are you a corporate thug?
Civilization2
Jun 2013
#50
I've communicated with you on DU and I don't know your name or where you work. And no,
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#48
I've been communicating with you for years and I don't know your name or where you work.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#46
We communicate... here on DU... I don't know your name or where you work.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#53
Well, you aren't supposed to be so emotional over something you can't control.
Major Hogwash
Jun 2013
#92
psst... there's this thing folks use all the time online called nicknames/aliases
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jun 2013
#76
Do you really believe that Snowden didn't reveal that he was an NSA subcontractor?
grantcart
Jun 2013
#79
Could he not know where he worked and still know he was an NSA subcontractor?
Hassin Bin Sober
Jun 2013
#90
He had to know something concrete. He didn't make all those preparations based on nothing. n/t
ProSense
Jun 2013
#93