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31. Not only that, but I find their comments to be reasonable and entirely consistent

Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:23 PM

Jun 2013

These guys have diplomats, a military and secrets just like we do. The idea from that Kos diarist that everyone is mad because we are doing the exact same thing that they are doing is bizarre.

I was expecting alot of sturm und drund in this OP and didn't get anything even resembling that. In the real world, this is what's going on at least here in Australia - http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/australia-gets-deluge-of-us-secret-data-prompting-a-new-data-facility-20130612-2o4kf.html

People need to read and not just swallow what some are feeding them here. Does anyone seriously, HONESTLY think that every single one of those other countries doesn't have something similar in place? This is an important issue and the Patriot Act has simply got to go. But some of the BS being trotted out around here does nothing but make this place look even more unhinged than usual.

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powerful commentary. If we're too busy, distracted, partisan, downright stupid xiamiam Jun 2013 #7

Agree marions ghost Jun 2013 #12

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The Patriot Act marions ghost Jun 2013 #18

I did, have been calling the enabling act since nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #21

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Winning hearts and minds. Downwinder Jun 2013 #16

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Not only that, but I find their comments to be reasonable and entirely consistent Number23 Jun 2013 #31

'Unhinged' is the definitive term. railsback Jun 2013 #36

Are you completely mad? sibelian Jun 2013 #52

Your grip on facts is only rivalled by your grip on reality. Number23 Jun 2013 #61

K&R liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #20

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Is Linkasaurus Rex who I think it is? Th1onein Jun 2013 #29

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #23

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Good. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #30

so much for land of the free xiamiam Jun 2013 #32

so true SHRED Jun 2013 #34

Our privatized, corporatized, for-profit government is running amok SHRED Jun 2013 #33

Ya don't say??? TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #35

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Oh, right. Were they now? sibelian Jun 2013 #53

G.Q American Public doesn't know this.... ReRe Jun 2013 #49

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