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SammyWinstonJack

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108. And that is why we are well and truly screwn! coming from both sides now.

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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:48 AM

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The Pursuit of Edward Snowden: Washington in a Rage, Striving to Run the World [View all] xchrom Jun 2013 OP

Snowden speaks truth to power jsr Jun 2013 #1

Jesus I thought we put that idiotic phrase down for good. Richardo Jun 2013 #40

Nope. Jesus is still used. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #48

No, but, Obama is working on it with his 7th prosecution of a whistle blower :P n/t pam4water Jun 2013 #81

Since when is it an idiotic phrase? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #90

You have to get into the mindset of an authoritarian follower to understand - Dragonfli Jun 2013 #95

Very well put. panzerfaust Jun 2013 #119

Quite a while ago, this place had someone who quite innocently truedelphi Jun 2013 #106

Since overuse pounded it into insensibility duriong the Bush years. Richardo Jun 2013 #115

'war based on lies' needed to be put down? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #120

Truth to power Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 #114

Which side are you on? kentuck Jun 2013 #2

love her. nt xchrom Jun 2013 #3

I think "Napoleon" would fit well here too. bemildred Jun 2013 #12

and this one?the king blues - your granddad didn't vote for fascists, he shot 'em Monkie Jun 2013 #17

Wow. But I love Ani. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #18

That's awesome! Never heard of The King Blues. Obviously British. Current? Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2013 #92

I like this. nt octoberlib Jun 2013 #105

It is pissing the powers that be off to no end that the world does not bow to America's wishes. The Link Jun 2013 #4

It's pissing the powers that be off that one nerd could punk them. Myrina Jun 2013 #23

Yeah. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #110

Remember when Howard Hughes bought RKO in the 50s? ucrdem Jun 2013 #5

Yep.... zeemike Jun 2013 #22

Ha. I guess you're half right at least. ucrdem Jun 2013 #27

Yes there was a time where journalist were independant. zeemike Jun 2013 #38

I share your take. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #111

"fools like Chomsky" does not help your case. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #44

And by doggedly keeping promises you mean keeping Blue Dog promises Coccydynia Jun 2013 #56

Obama is doggedly keeping what promises? Transparency??? cui bono Jun 2013 #93

Yes, I think so. He's been more candid about the NSA in his last two appearances ucrdem Jun 2013 #96

That's because he got caught! That's not being candid, that's being confessional. cui bono Jun 2013 #98

Most was well known to anyone paying attention but I realize not everyone does. ucrdem Jun 2013 #100

No, what's a shock is that Obama took the steps to make/keep it "legal". cui bono Jun 2013 #101

The 2008 FISA amendment passed while Obama was still a senator. ucrdem Jun 2013 #102

Yeah, I was just editing my post while you responded. Obama signed the extension. cui bono Jun 2013 #103

I was disgusted too. I got over it. ucrdem Jun 2013 #104

When did you get over it? When Obama started doing it? cui bono Jun 2013 #107

I got over it in 2010 I guess. ucrdem Jun 2013 #109

Yeah, because if there's one thing the Koch's hate, JoeyT Jun 2013 #30

When I read bullshit on this epic scale, JackRiddler Jun 2013 #80

Sometimes I wonder that about the Democratic Party. n/t cui bono Jun 2013 #94

No need to wonder really Dragonfli Jun 2013 #97

There you go. cui bono Jun 2013 #99

You are complaining about hacks? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #121

All I have to say about this is... austinlw Jun 2013 #6

Agreed Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #7

LOL Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #59

Nothing would surprise me at this juncture. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #112

Greatest rant of all time...n/t skamaria Jun 2013 #78

No JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #9

Tobey Maguire RobinA Jun 2013 #19

Hey, Matt Damon austinlw Jun 2013 #25

Matt isn't geeky enough. I vote for Jesse Eisenberg. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2013 #91

We are going about this the wrong way JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #8

I seriously doubt if anything in this article is true. ucrdem Jun 2013 #11

I tend to agree JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #16

With all due respect, could you please explain to me, truth2power Jun 2013 #20

Article doesn't mention any charges. Read it. ucrdem Jun 2013 #24

OK, let me try to explain why I think you and I are talking at cross-purposes, here... truth2power Jun 2013 #49

He has been charged with 'espionage', certainly an overreaction sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #41

I understand why they want the database of numbers called karynnj Jun 2013 #68

Are you suggesting that it has previously been used for other purposes... Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #85

Are you saying you have a problem with the long term norm that law enforcement karynnj Jun 2013 #86

I think it is sad that someone has to seek asylum from America CanonRay Jun 2013 #10

I Had This Thought RobinA Jun 2013 #21

He will get it too, even in the EU now with allies countries, the rules are strict. If a country sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #42

Sorry Sabrina but he big guy is oblivious warrant46 Jun 2013 #118

It is not the first time nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #45

+100 RC Jun 2013 #57

Oswald did treestar Jun 2013 #73

That happens when you commit a crime in America michigandem58 Jun 2013 #116

"moral clarity"??? karynnj Jun 2013 #13

I believe nineteen50 Jun 2013 #26

"Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge bemildred Jun 2013 #28

wel said. nt xchrom Jun 2013 #31

Well, I mean, we pay them, they are our employees. bemildred Jun 2013 #32

We pay them NorthCarolina Jun 2013 #53

Right, corruption pays much better than we do. bemildred Jun 2013 #55

And that is why we are well and truly screwn! coming from both sides now. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Jun 2013 #77

Karl Rove, Ari Fleischer and a whole host of Bush-era PNACers agree with you nashville_brook Jun 2013 #33

What secrets did he 'take to China'? According to him, he has had no contact with the Chinese sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #46

He did release that the US "hacked" China karynnj Jun 2013 #61

The whole "He shoulda done a Daniel" schtick is bogus. GliderGuider Jun 2013 #70

Were you alive in 1971? It was every bit as paranoid - for good reasons - time period karynnj Jun 2013 #72

Oh I was around then. GliderGuider Jun 2013 #74

What secrets did he 'take to China'? According to him, he has had no contact with the Chinese sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #46

News Flash: After Abu Ghraib, Bagram and Gitmo, there is no 'image' left to damage. Snowden's HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #54

+1. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #62

And where do you stand on the morality of the US ACTIVELY... TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #67

This isn't considered journalism is it? snooper2 Jun 2013 #14

Don't tell me you haven't read Norman Solomon before... ReRe Jun 2013 #35

The Sturm und Drang over Snowden's dissapearing act may be as much smoke and mirrors. Ford_Prefect Jun 2013 #15

good post, nt G_j Jun 2013 #36

Snowden and Obama are both distractions from the real issue carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #29

exactly,. people willfully missing the point! Civilization2 Jun 2013 #122

Well he won't be coming back here unless he is in custody... Historic NY Jun 2013 #34

"Washington in a rage..." AndyA Jun 2013 #37

A very poignant question I am asking myself harun Jun 2013 #39

I have been wondering about that since bu$h's first term. RC Jun 2013 #64

Thank you for this post, AndyA Th1onein Jun 2013 #65

excellent grasswire Jun 2013 #76

What would it take to get the American people in a rage warrant46 Jun 2013 #117

Somewhere sits a drone with "Edward Snowden" etched on it. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #43

The liights have been turned on and the roaches are frightened. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #50

They don't mind acting like ***ts dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #51

Wonkbook - Does snowden actually exist? riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #52

You betcha life - Its a mountain in the north of Wales. dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #63

I've noticed gvstn Jun 2013 #58

This is gonna end bad PatrynXX Jun 2013 #60

Do you really think he would remain free for long if he went to an American friendly country? RC Jun 2013 #66

If Ecuador is anti-American Maedhros Jun 2013 #82

And a long list of other countries too. RC Jun 2013 #83

It'd be quicker to list the countries tblue Jun 2013 #88

Besides maybe North Korea, China and Russia, are there any? RC Jun 2013 #89

He Has No Choice RobinA Jun 2013 #69

When America's after you, do you flee to a pro-America country? Iggo Jun 2013 #71

Big Brother is not happy. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #75

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #79

YES! DeSwiss Jun 2013 #84

k&r Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #87

i think its provoked more in the media than the government... iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #113