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MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:11 PM Jun 2013

Pope Francis is a misogyinst bigot [View all]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by In_The_Wind (a host of the General Discussion forum).

These are undisputed facts. He is the leader of an institution that actively works to take away the rights of many of our fellow DUers and does nothing to stand in the way of these actions, but instead supports these actions with his condemnation of others.

When posts are made on GD praising him, try to think how it comes across to those who the Pope condemns. The Pope being considered marginally better than the previous Pope by presenting himself more humbly doesn't make much of a difference to those who are condemned in the same ignorant manner as before. It's hard to consider someone humble who condemns others based on the supposed special knowledge they have of God, no matter their other beliefs or actions.

Try to remember this when praising what you see as a better Pope. You may want to qualify any compliments with the facts that the Pope supports and promotes misogyny and bigotry towards homosexuals as a matter of course, and that this support has had and continues to have very real world consequences in the lives of many DUers.

Also consider posting it in the Catholic group. Posting praise of the Pope in GD will lead to hurting a lot of DUers who have been and continue to be on the receiving end of Pope Francis' beliefs and cause a lot of strife. Understand that it will cause some venom towards the Pope, and understand that the source of this venom is completely justified. If you think such venom towards the Pope will hurt Catholic DUers and want to avoid this, again, I recommend posting it to the Catholic forum to avoid this.

Consider what other religious or political leaders with the same views of women and homosexuals would receive praise on DU. Try to understand that for much of DU, such leaders deserve nothing but criticism and contempt, no matter if they are liberal on every other issue. Many people have died and suffered under oppression and continue to do so because of the beliefs Pope Francis continues to espouse. Those beliefs cannot be ignored for many, but are a glaring character flaw of anyone who holds them not capable of redemption merely through beliefs in other issues. Please be sensitive to that when praising him on DU. If you at least acknowledge these very important and prescient issues when complimenting the Pope on some other point, it can go a long way.

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Aw geez, not this LittleBlue Jun 2013 #1
speaking of posting in correct groups, this belongs in the religion forum quinnox Jun 2013 #2
Yes. Thanks. elleng Jun 2013 #3
No! GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #9
ok, either religion or meta quinnox Jun 2013 #16
There are daily 'I love the Pope' threads in GD. Daily. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20
+++ Whisp Jun 2013 #24
I haven't seen them, but yea, all threads talking about the Pope in gen. disc. should be locked quinnox Jun 2013 #28
No, there really aren't daily "I love the Pope" threads in GD. You must be reading DU in an alternat KittyWampus Jun 2013 #36
You are being way too sensitive. If you find it that hurtful, you should probably post elsewhere. badtoworse Jun 2013 #4
He's a bigot. DU states that posters are to support equality for LGBT people, Francis opposes Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #7
+1 FreeState Jun 2013 #10
Us gay folks are just "too sensitive" DURHAM D Jun 2013 #15
That's just over the top stupid. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #21
Nope, it's accurate. NYC Liberal Jun 2013 #32
DU... LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #8
It should be enough for any non-bigot. forestpath Jun 2013 #14
Right. Maybe you can add the anti-condom stance to help promote AIDS, HERVEPA Jun 2013 #31
I like and admire him. cali Jun 2013 #5
Do you like and admire him in spite of this atavistic bigotry or because of it? It is a fair Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #17
you should know me well enough by now not to ask that. cali Jun 2013 #33
GD rules should be enforced as they would be toward 'I love Rick Warren' threads. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #6
There are not threads "each and every day". HappyMe Jun 2013 #18
Just about. Maybe they take Sundays off, it is a faith issue after all. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #23
There have only been an endless HappyMe Jun 2013 #25
GD SOP Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #27
Neither should threads ranting about the pope. HappyMe Jun 2013 #30
There are no threads ranting about the pope, they are critical of the POSTERS who place Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #35
The thread we are in is ranting about the Pope. HappyMe Jun 2013 #38
Post your rant in Religion. HappyMe Jun 2013 #11
K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #12
I like this Pope. Beacool Jun 2013 #13
He's the Pope. That's a job requirement. MineralMan Jun 2013 #19
That's not the point. This is the point: Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #26
Forum hosts decide SOP issues. MineralMan Jun 2013 #29
The OP asks that GD not have religious posts, the OP does not affect surprise that the Pope Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #34
I commented on the title of the OP, and am in agreement MineralMan Jun 2013 #37
Yes he is Marrah_G Jun 2013 #22
Locking In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #39
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