Illinois illegally seizes bees resistant to (Monsanto) Roundup; kills remaining queens

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198. Point is both have been around a long time.

EPA promulgated regulations on groundwater and atrazine in 1990 and surface water in 1992.

History of regulating atrazine

Atrazine first registered in 1958
Groundwater mitigation (1990)
Surface water mitigation (1992)
Special Review initiated under FIFRA (1994)
Additional surface water mitigation (1996)
Revised cancer characterization (2000)
NRDC consent decree (2000 & 2001)
Preliminary risk assessments (2001)
Revised risk assessments (2002)
Interim Reregistration Eligibility Decision (2003)
Amended IRED with consideration of ecological issues, including amphibians (scheduled for October 31, 2003)

The EPA can't act without solid evidence, and it takes time to do environmental studies.
Roundup was registered in 1974 so there has been time to determine how it reacts in the environment. But the measurement of environmental contaminants and their effects has improved tremendously since both Roundup and Atrazine were first registered, so counting years until **** was discovered is kind of pointless. Since both Roundup and Atrazine were around before modern methods of toxicology, one would expect just as much to be known about Roundup as Atrazine in terms of possible effects on ****. I have as much respect for the need for appropriate skepticism of scientific claims as you do, but hypothesizing about the potential risks of a particular product with very little evidence or knowledge of the chemistry involved does not serve the public interest any more than ignoring potential risks. Finally, glyphosate and atrazine are very different chemicals with different modes of action. It is not particularly instructive to compare them in terms of environmental effects.