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In reply to the discussion: I think President Obama just said that Keystone XL WILL be approved.... [View all]Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)Welcome to the group, that is, the group of people who have listened to politicians talk enough that we have learned to read between the lines to get what they are really saying, aka, the fine print. While it may appear they are saying one thing, if you understand how to listen to politicians, it will become easier and easier for you to hear the other thing they are REALLY saying. After a while, you will begin to hear them, LOUD AND CLEAR, without even concentrating.
Responses you will get:
Now: You are underestimating Obama's capacity for 12th dimensional chess. He is not really going to agree to the pipeline. That is what they are saying right now. Make note of this, because the talking points will change when Obama does what he is REALLY going to do, as opposed to what many may THINK he is going to do, based on what he said today.
Later: But, he clearly said he would build the pipeline if it could be built without increasing the amount of GHG emissions. And clearly, building the pipeline will not increase GHG emissions, because a biased group of polluting industry insiders said it will not. So, Obama is doing exactly what he said he would do and it won't hurt the environment.
Even later: There is no clear evidence that increasing GHG emissions hurt the environment in any way whatsoever. Obama did what is right, because it will bring gas prices down.
If you persist in rebutting their talking points, you will hear:
YOU NEVER REALLY LOVED HIM!!!
REPUBLICAN!!!!
RACIST!!!!
TROLL!!!!
My advice is to hear what the politician is saying, understand it and know you got it right (in this case, you got it right), cook some popcorn, and sit back and watch the above interactions take place on DU for the foreseeable future. The DU talking points dissemination team turns into a comedy troupe when you just sit back and watch them go through this process for the millionth time, try to rationalize the irrational, call everyone who disagrees with them a troll/Republican/racist, then turn blue in the face and pitch a temper tantrum when people disagree with them. It happens every time.
Yeah, I think you figured out what he was really saying. It is those qualifiers that give it away every single time. A politician won't do such and such, IF such and such doesn't happen first. Of course, such and such is already on its way to being tailor made to fit the qualified statement. Otherwise, a politician would not bring it up in the first place.
I just hope that maybe he will do some of the good stuff he mentioned to counteract the negative that will surely come with the pipeline and more freaking fracking that is surely on its way too. Maybe it will all work out. At least it is better than what the Republicans would do. We have that much working for us.