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Lns.Lns

(99 posts)
10. I think it does matter
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jun 2013

Everyone keeps overlooking the fact that all these people are Libertarians. There are a couple of things progressives do agree with that are in the Libertarian purview. But there are so many that don't. I thought it was a relevant conversation to have when this first came out. However, after the meeting with Xi Jinping bringing up the the serious cyber problems and then have him tell them we are spying on them, tell me, how does that serve our interests except for China to be able to say it is a tit for tat. Right before the G8 meeting with Putin which could very well mean the difference between war or no war (starting with Syria), telling how Medvedev was being spied upon, tell me, how does that serve our interests except for Russia not to listen. Don't forget we had a chance with Russia before the Republicans interfered with the Start treaty and the talks about proximal missile defense.

I personally do not trust Libertarians, so to me it matters. I am concerned this is just a setup to divide (once again).

As for Obama, after 40+ strategic years of being drug to the right, it is like people expect him to fix it all. Even though I completely sympathize with the desire for a government that is pure of heart to it's citizens, but I also have a darn good idea what would happen if we were hit on the scale of 9/11. Bush was forgiven, but Obama would not be, just like everything else, and a Liberal agenda would be pushed back at least another decade or more. To me, that is why the motive matters.

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Well done! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #1
I think Snowden is the target to distract from the institutions that really are at fault. Cleita Jun 2013 #2
Yes, I agree with that. sibelian Jun 2013 #7
I love ProSense Jun 2013 #3
It doesn't matter. sibelian Jun 2013 #8
I think it does matter Lns.Lns Jun 2013 #10
What makes you an expert in what constitutes a "legitimate whistleblower" does? MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #19
"All attempts to criticise Snowden AT ALL reveal EVERY TIME... bunnies Jun 2013 #4
Good points marions ghost Jun 2013 #5
I don't know what to do about it. At least there's a discussion in the US... sibelian Jun 2013 #6
what's the reason for that-- marions ghost Jun 2013 #9
there is nothing that gets suppressed these days Lns.Lns Jun 2013 #11
I'll try deciphering what you wrote... marions ghost Jun 2013 #13
Really? Lns.Lns Jun 2013 #14
I believe the point was... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #15
Pithy Lns.Lns Jun 2013 #17
Nothing pithy about that... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #18
OK, I'll play. Lns.Lns Jun 2013 #22
Look, this goes beyond the future of our party... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #23
Excellent posts! In a nutshell, what the Snowden bashers are doing is character assassination. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #12
I hope everyone reads through each and every word. This is an excellent post. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #16
Whoomp! (There It Is) whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #20
Most of the Snowden bashers Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #21
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