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grok

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18. the problem too is the lighting and distance

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:38 PM

Jun 2013

from the fotos you can tell how dark it was and the officer on the scene attests to that fact that if it wasn't for flash, you wouldn't be able to see anything in the photos.

the second problem is the distance. this lady lived only 3 houses away from TM's house. thats is almost at the very bottom right of the picture in post #3. I doubt anybody could see that far in the dark and come to any conclusion to what they saw. maybe she saw gz's flashlight and that's it. who knows?

the biggest issue with this witness is that she was caught in some blatant lies mainly centering on social media. she refused to acknowledge it till Omara forced to repeat verbally what was on her web-pages that he showed her with his laptop.

Not to say people haven't lied on both sides of this case, but this was pretty dumb.

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George Zimmerman Trial - how the hell can anyone look at the photos [View all] hedgehog Jun 2013 OP

The answer to that question is simple. ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #1

Does for me. That friggin Zimmerman pulled his gun and murdered unarmed teenager. Hoyt Jun 2013 #2

It is not possible to come to that conclusion based only on those pictures. ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #6

So, Trayvon murdered himself? MagickMuffin Jun 2013 #15

Oh damn. Thanks. I changed it. Hoyt Jun 2013 #19

Trayvon Martin Did NOT Collapse HangOnKids Jun 2013 #40

OK, so vocabulary may not be your strong suit. ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #42

Oh Please I Caught The Meaning Of Your Post HangOnKids Jun 2013 #46

Thanks for the laugh! ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jun 2013 #52

Maybe we should notify your family? HangOnKids Jun 2013 #53

LOL ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #55

It's OK to admit that your alert on me failed HangOnKids Jun 2013 #56

It was not me who alerted on you. ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #57

Martin did not collapse. He was shot dead. yardwork Jun 2013 #49

Which is a good reason to collapse to the ground. ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #50

The pictures are of a person shot in the chest upaloopa Jun 2013 #58

I don't think that picture really proves anything. Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #3

I'll be waiting to here testimony about Martin running away after being shot. hedgehog Jun 2013 #4

A shot in the heart is not instantaneous death. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #35

That's the way it is in movies. onehandle Jun 2013 #8

I'm not saying he ran a marathon, I'm just saying that if he ran 10 feet, the the pic proves nothing Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #14

Where in the pic did this all take place? ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #9

Somewhere south of the T intersection of the sidewalks csziggy Jun 2013 #25

z's police interviews will convict him arely staircase Jun 2013 #5

Good find. Hoyt Jun 2013 #21

Gun Culturist Porn. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #7

+1 Lex Jun 2013 #11

Not by the normal definition of "gun porn". ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #16

I just wonder John2 Jun 2013 #10

the problem too is the lighting and distance grok Jun 2013 #18

a better perspective grok Jun 2013 #12

So where was John2 Jun 2013 #22

i wasn't there so i don't have all the answers. grok Jun 2013 #26

It sure does look like the body is quite a ways from the cement Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #13

This poor photo gives a slightly ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #17

Thanks, that is quite a distance from the sidewalk. Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #20

We was very close to the sidewalk. Certainly less than 10 feet. Probably closer to 5 feet. Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #24

May not sound like much, but it looks too far away to be slamming anyone's head into the concrete Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #27

im wondering it it was a utility cover grok Jun 2013 #28

We will see if Zimmerman's defense claims that Trayvon was armed with a utility cover. Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #29

here is a better view of the utility cover. grok Jun 2013 #30

Except that utility cover is a fair distance from where Trayvon's body wound up magellan Jun 2013 #31

there is one every 10 or so feet. grok Jun 2013 #33

Well, if I were on the jury magellan Jun 2013 #34

that is not the only oddity. grok Jun 2013 #36

I downloaded the photo of Trayvon lying face down and brightened it magellan Jun 2013 #41

And the sidewalk is visible in the lower left corner. ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #43

Yep magellan Jun 2013 #44

So you are in contact with Zimmerman's defense yardwork Jun 2013 #51

My guess is about 5 feet Travis_0004 Jun 2013 #23

Yeah, I think you're right magellan Jun 2013 #45

I will remind everyone here that the autopsy report shows NO zimmerman dna on martin. niyad Jun 2013 #32

Are you sure you are talking about an "autopsy" report ? NM_Birder Jun 2013 #54

Completely irrelevant again. The issue is entirely did Trayvon have reasonable fear that MillennialDem Jun 2013 #37

What do you base that belief on? ManiacJoe Jun 2013 #38

Zimmerman while on the phone with the non-emergency dispatcher was watching MillennialDem Jun 2013 #39

I just saw one briefly and it was tough for me Rhiannon12866 Jun 2013 #48