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48. the timeline bears WHAT out?

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:42 AM

Jun 2013

Not sure where you got that timeline. Some place that also includes a "map of the retreat at Twin Lakes" Be interesting to see a map with some distances marked off on it.

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So the Zimmerman trial boils down to this [View all] snooper2 Jun 2013 OP

it was Trayvon who was fighting for his life Skittles Jun 2013 #1

Depends on what the jury believes.... Pelican Jun 2013 #2

Trayvon was fighting for his life against a gun-toting vigilante who STALKED him Skittles Jun 2013 #9

Because for some reason stand your ground doesn't apply to him. uppityperson Jun 2013 #18

it boggles my mind Skittles Jun 2013 #22

perhaps because, in theory, he wasn't being attacked. hfojvt Jun 2013 #39

And the person following shouldn't be a fucking jerk to Fawke Em Jun 2013 #49

I carried an opened pocketknife when being followed in the city and if he'd come closer I'd not had uppityperson Jun 2013 #57

Furthermore, Fearing for your life after starting shit is not ok, like zimmy did uppityperson Jun 2013 #58

THANK YOU Skittles Jun 2013 #68

"somebody who is only following you"---WITH A GUN, AT NIGHT, UNIDENTIFIED. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #103

You're almost there... Pelican Jun 2013 #23

we don't know why because Martin is DEAD Skittles Jun 2013 #26

Just expand on that... Pelican Jun 2013 #28

Zimmerman chased him from 7:11 (when Trayvon started running) until MillennialDem Jun 2013 #33

If the evidence bears out... Pelican Jun 2013 #40

It's in the timeline. Not sure if it has been brought in court, you are right on that count. MillennialDem Jun 2013 #41

And Martin is heard asking Zimmerman why he is being followed just before chelsea0011 Jun 2013 #80

one trouble with that hfojvt Jun 2013 #42

Possible, or possible he didn't know where he was going / got lost. It was raining and dark. MillennialDem Jun 2013 #43

the timeline bears WHAT out? hfojvt Jun 2013 #48

That Trayvon Martin ran away from Zimmerman and it took approx ~5 min for them to make contact again MillennialDem Jun 2013 #56

Ever had an armed bigot stalking you with hatred and a gun? Hoyt Jun 2013 #32

Whether is meets a legal standard is a stupid question? Pelican Jun 2013 #45

I'll give you a guess.... CC Jun 2013 #51

Interesting... Pelican Jun 2013 #54

A guess is a guess you know. CC Jun 2013 #105

There is no DNA on Martin from Zimmerman, the fight BS is just Rex Jun 2013 #93

It's obvious they got into a fight snooper2 Jun 2013 #3

except that, according to the autopsy report, martin had NONE of zimmy's dna on him, except niyad Jun 2013 #4

4 or 5 punches would have done the damage shown on Zimmy snooper2 Jun 2013 #5

well, the autopsy says no dna on martin--the nose incident could have happened any time, and the niyad Jun 2013 #13

i wonder if he bashed himself in the nose with his flashlight Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #61

Trayvon was fighting for his life against a gun-toting vigilante Skittles Jun 2013 #7

It was Martin who, justifiably, "stood his ground" arcane1 Jun 2013 #6

there's plenty of gun-humping DUer's defending that coward Zimmerman Skittles Jun 2013 #8

This is the most succinct description of events I've read. Prism Jun 2013 #14

Thanks. That's even more of a compliment since it came before I fixed the quotes :) arcane1 Jun 2013 #24

It's ok. I'm fluent in errant message board format =) Prism Jun 2013 #31

I am sorta puzzled hfojvt Jun 2013 #50

Yup. If you think Zimmerman was getting his ass kicked that sets up self defense. dkf Jun 2013 #55

The short answer: he started it. He was seeking an altercation and it didn't go as he planned. arcane1 Jun 2013 #86

Nicely stated, I agree Progressive dog Jun 2013 #81

What does not make sense is that Zimmerman called the avebury Jun 2013 #10

I haven't been following this..just speculating.. pipoman Jun 2013 #12

I live in Oklahoma City which is a highly populated urban area. avebury Jun 2013 #19

I bet he was surprised when some unarmed kid stood up to the bigot with a gun. Hoyt Jun 2013 #34

Watch the neighborhood watch coordinator's testimony... Pelican Jun 2013 #25

It just boggles my mind that this situation would have been a call avebury Jun 2013 #27

Whatever national policy may be for neighborhood watch... Pelican Jun 2013 #29

Zimmerman is not on trial for calling the police. (nt) Nine Jun 2013 #69

Correct... have a cookie... Pelican Jun 2013 #70

You're the one who brought it up. Nine Jun 2013 #71

Actually Post #27 brought it up... Pelican Jun 2013 #72

The defense hasn't called any witnesses yet B2G Jun 2013 #76

Correct... Pelican Jun 2013 #77

I haven't been following pipoman Jun 2013 #11

PLEASE explain to me Skittles Jun 2013 #15

What is this stalking you're on about? Llewlladdwr Jun 2013 #30

BS - when it's a bigot with a gun, pick up a brick if that what it takes Hoyt Jun 2013 #35

So sucker punching bigots is legal? for everyone? Recursion Jun 2013 #62

It's pretty accurate. Hoyt Jun 2013 #64

Next time you see a bigot, you should punch him and try that rationale in court... Pelican Jun 2013 #73

Highly likely I would not make it to court. Most gun toters/lovers/cultists are bigots. Hoyt Jun 2013 #85

Why are people making up stuff about a fight? Rex Jun 2013 #95

Witnesses say there was a fight. We don't know who started it. Recursion Jun 2013 #98

Trayvon RAN for 5 minutes after Zimmerman was "stalking" him in his truck. If someone is MillennialDem Jun 2013 #38

I'm pretty sure that is the part you defenders do NOT understand Skittles Jun 2013 #67

Well, technically a middle aged gal had not been recently arrested for burglary in the neighborhood. Pelican Jun 2013 #75

LOL Skittles Jun 2013 #87

that's news to me backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #37

You are not allowed to punch someone pipoman Jun 2013 #74

he was being STALKED Skittles Jun 2013 #88

Maybe.. pipoman Jun 2013 #90

he REPEATEDLY targeted what he perceived to be "young punks" Skittles Jun 2013 #91

according to the autopsy report, NO zimmy dna found on martin. wounds not consistent with niyad Jun 2013 #16

I saw some initial reports from witnesses that had Martin on top of Zimmerman... Pelican Jun 2013 #63

So what if Trayvon threw the first punch? XemaSab Jun 2013 #17

Had Trayvon been carring a gun he would have been avebury Jun 2013 #20

Agree completely, but police probably would have shot him, Hoyt Jun 2013 #36

Exactly sad-cafe Jun 2013 #21

He does appear to be doped to the gills Mariana Jun 2013 #46

Or he could be stressed out about the murder trial uppityperson Jun 2013 #59

Oh, certainly, that could be. Mariana Jun 2013 #82

There is absolutely no evidence that shows a physical altercation. Rex Jun 2013 #44

Zimmermans wounds and reports of seeing Martin on top... Pelican Jun 2013 #52

Really someone saw the altercation? The BS just keeps getting deeper. Rex Jun 2013 #92

Read carefully.... Pelican Jun 2013 #99

Fox, Stormfront, freepers forum, NRA, KKK, the yahoo next door, etc. Hoyt Jun 2013 #65

Some here too, how pathetic and desperate are they? Rex Jun 2013 #94

There is a trial going on, and the cool thing is.. snooper2 Jun 2013 #100

What I want to know at this point is moondust Jun 2013 #47

"These fucking punks always get away" Incitatus Jun 2013 #53

I have noticed Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #60

+1000 Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #66

Body on grass mainstreetonce Jun 2013 #78

You can't use the P word because it it sexist and misogynistic. Unless you a d#@@. WCLinolVir Jun 2013 #79

But I notice the media never had a problem talking about "Pussy Riot" BlueStreak Jun 2013 #83

There were no marks on Trayvon's hands BlueToTheBone Jun 2013 #84

No evidence that Trayvon ever hit Zimmerman yardwork Jun 2013 #89

Yeah a few people in this thread keep ignoring that fact. Rex Jun 2013 #96

Zimmerman's entire defense rests on it yardwork Jun 2013 #101

Yeah, two days is enough. Who needs to hear a defense anyway? ksoze Jun 2013 #97

Two days is more than Trayvon Martin got. yardwork Jun 2013 #102

Observers can make up their minds whenever they want. THAT is why jurors are different. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #104