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jtown1123

(3,203 posts)
61. Here this might help:
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 01:43 PM
Feb 2012

From Kaiser:
The income thresholds for the higher income Part B and D premiums in
2035 are equivalent to about $47,000 for individuals and $94,000 for couples in today’s inflation-adjusted dollars.

http://www.kff.org/medicare/upload/8276.pdf

25% of Medicare beneficiaries fit the above definition of "higher income." Since so few seniors are traditionally wealthy, they would have to dip down to this 25% threshold to produce any meaningful savings from means testing, which is incredibly problematic. Medicare has no income tax cap, unlike Social Security, so these people have been contributing the max amount to Medicare their entire lives, then they cut their benefits, which doesn't seem fair. Medicare is already means tested on top of all this. I don't think we should keep tapping seniors like an ATM every time we need more revenue.

Obviously, this budget is not going to be passed, but I wanted to make the point that means testing Medicare is not the answer to our debt and deficit issues. We need to continue the ACA and keep building on ways to keep the costs of all health care down.

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That's why we need to take back the House and keep the Senate Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #1
So, what are the odds of such a budget being enacted Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #2
Depends on how big the majorities are and what kind of people comprise them. Arkana Feb 2012 #3
0% n/t bbinacan Feb 2012 #29
Senate will vote in down. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #42
They didn't just vote it down, they murdered it. 97 to zip or something like that. SlimJimmy Feb 2012 #49
No doubt. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #51
Yep SlimJimmy Feb 2012 #52
At this point, it's about drawing a stark contrast between Obama ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2012 #4
Exactly. ProSense Feb 2012 #6
learn from the Republicans angry citizen Feb 2012 #54
The Rs will reject it and continue to complain that Ds have no budget. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #5
Agreed ... but the GOP will reject anything Obama proposes anyway Puzzler Feb 2012 #30
I wish these populist values came out through the ENTIRE presidency so far... Fearless Feb 2012 #7
Yes and I fully expect them to be tamped back down right after Obama wins. Bandit Feb 2012 #9
He is also alleged to kick puppies competitively for distance and accuracy. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #11
Before eating them Scootaloo Feb 2012 #18
You have it ALL wrong...it is kittens he eats, not puppies... Bandit Feb 2012 #19
+1 to you and Fearless (n/t) a2liberal Feb 2012 #39
People ProSense Feb 2012 #20
For every one of your examples of where... tex-wyo-dem Feb 2012 #40
Well ProSense Feb 2012 #55
I said I wish they came through. Fearless Feb 2012 #41
30% is hardly excessive, 35% is the top bracket for those of us who work. grahamhgreen Feb 2012 #8
k&r... spanone Feb 2012 #10
Sigh MrCoffee Feb 2012 #12
So ProSense Feb 2012 #13
Who is it good for? MrCoffee Feb 2012 #14
What's ProSense Feb 2012 #15
From your own source MrCoffee Feb 2012 #16
Maybe ProSense Feb 2012 #17
Maybe MrCoffee Feb 2012 #21
well, you get to be mad at obama whatever what happens, so you should be happy. dionysus Feb 2012 #26
Any "real" budget with a hope of passing the house would be unpalatable Demstud Feb 2012 #44
Borrowing 45% of every dollar spent. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #37
As ProSense Feb 2012 #45
Me too. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #53
Obama is incapable of ever being "good enough" for some people Scootaloo Feb 2012 #22
I think ProSense Feb 2012 #23
No, I got that Scootaloo Feb 2012 #24
You got the wrong impression. MrCoffee Feb 2012 #25
I haven't seen anything to say otherwise yet. Scootaloo Feb 2012 #27
Awesome I hope it holds TNLib Feb 2012 #28
We need to pound them mercilessly JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #31
That's what is ALWAYS done before elections. As predictable as the sun. nt Bonobo Feb 2012 #32
Except ProSense Feb 2012 #33
K & R Scurrilous Feb 2012 #34
His landslide win will be his mandate to enact this budget Skraxx Feb 2012 #35
Of course they are opposed Mkap Feb 2012 #36
Easy to do when you know a2liberal Feb 2012 #38
Here's ProSense Feb 2012 #43
People expect that behavior from Republicans a2liberal Feb 2012 #48
Are we all conveniently ignoring its Medicare cuts that wld affect the middle class jtown1123 Feb 2012 #46
What ProSense Feb 2012 #50
What about Medicare Means Testing? That will affect the middle class, not the wealthy: jtown1123 Feb 2012 #59
It's ProSense Feb 2012 #60
Here this might help: jtown1123 Feb 2012 #61
Thanks. So ProSense Feb 2012 #62
I would hope they would. But my concern is we're means testing people who have very little jtown1123 Feb 2012 #63
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Still waiting for us to renegotiate NAFTA! Romulox Feb 2012 #47
And fix the Patriot Act. woo me with science Feb 2012 #57
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