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RainDog

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27. Fear-mongering is always a strategy

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:04 AM

Jun 2013

when you don't have public sentiment or reality on your side.

But, honestly, why don't you address the facts about this issue that I posted, above.

These realities:

800,000 arrests a yearfor possession.

and asset seizure laws

and three strikes laws that can put people in prison for LIFE for possession of a plant.

and people with health issues unable to safely and easily procure a substance that helps them deal with their illnesses.

And Florida making bongs illegal. And Indiana increasing the penalties for possession... and both of these legislative pieces of b.s. coming from FOR PROFIT PRISON demands to keep facilities at 90% capacity.

Explain how your unsupported fear of "big tobacco" is more important than civil liberties.

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What would currently-illegal drugs look like if produced by corporations? [View all] Recursion Jun 2013 OP

It's a valid point - OTHO Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #1

But imagine the reality of a regulatory scheme Recursion Jun 2013 #5

Yes, that's true. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #7

I'm not seeing this. StrayKat Jun 2013 #6

The regs are definitely a valid point, as Recursion expressed above. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #8

It's not about getting to market first. Xithras Jun 2013 #10

I'm not so sure. JW2020 Jun 2013 #11

Lol Xithras Jun 2013 #13

agri-biz would be smarter to cultivate hemp RainDog Jun 2013 #34

Sooner, rather than later, someone would breed a version good for both. hunter Jun 2013 #40

do you know how many generations you need to produce a stable genetics? RainDog Jun 2013 #41

"Roundup Ready" Monsanto genetically engineered hemp... hunter Jun 2013 #43

you don't know much about this issue, do you? RainDog Jun 2013 #46

Um... hunter Jun 2013 #49

um... RainDog Jun 2013 #50

Hemp paper, awesome, better than tree paper... hunter Jun 2013 #52

Grow your own...car RainDog Jun 2013 #54

Surely a valid point. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #12

Yes, I've wondered this myself. StrayKat Jun 2013 #2

Back room treatments have always been serious issues for illegal drugs. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #3

Theres not really a way to "cut" mj though. At least not if you want repeat business. Erose999 Jun 2013 #16

? I am sure plenty of weed has been soaked or sprayed with something nasty. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #51

I believe in Colorado the sellers must grow at least 70% of the weed they sell 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #4

Versus 800,000 arrests a year RainDog Jun 2013 #9

Well yeah, sure. But that isn't nearly as entertaining as an OP. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #35

I once heard that Big Tobacco had trademarked common trade names like "Northern Lights" and "Kush" Erose999 Jun 2013 #14

You guys are really pushing this fake talking point RainDog Jun 2013 #15

It's the regulations that make the huge corporations possible Recursion Jun 2013 #19

LOL RainDog Jun 2013 #23

I have, and they won't last a second once growing pot becomes legal Recursion Jun 2013 #24

Fear-mongering is always a strategy RainDog Jun 2013 #27

If I supported keeping it criminal, you would have a point Recursion Jun 2013 #29

Why shouldn't a plant be legal? RainDog Jun 2013 #30

Decriminalization keeps marijuana illegal RainDog Jun 2013 #39

Legalize all drugs, let them be marketed the same as any other drug. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #17

No thank you on that Recursion Jun 2013 #18

It's a largely moot point. While marijuana is (slowly) being legalized, I don't think you'll see Rod Walker Jun 2013 #20

We already have opioid and heroin derivatives in wide use. StrayKat Jun 2013 #28

Something along those lines might well develop in the future. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #31

Well the various governments could tax the shit out of them. MicaelS Jun 2013 #21

Like bathtub gin was always more fun than Gordon's (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #22

so the solution is to keep them illegal? Locrian Jun 2013 #25

You think your local micro grower will be allowed to stay open? Recursion Jun 2013 #26

How are craft beer markets able to stay open? RainDog Jun 2013 #32

And that took decades Recursion Jun 2013 #33

Cannabis is more like beer than tobacco RainDog Jun 2013 #38

I agree you have a really valid concern... Locrian Jun 2013 #36

It is better than keeping what we have now, I agree Recursion Jun 2013 #37

Here's the reality of the big biz market for cannabis products RainDog Jun 2013 #42

it would be tough to monopolize a "weed" that could grow almost anywhere yurbud Jun 2013 #44

+1.. it's about the easiest damn thing in the world to grow.. SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #45

legalization would also save lives in Mexico. Nobody gets beheaded over beer turf yurbud Jun 2013 #55

In pain? Unbearably sad? Try Obliviatine from BigPharm Drugs. MineralMan Jun 2013 #47

Sluggish? Unmotivated? MineralMan Jun 2013 #48

In Vietnam during the war we could buy weed rolled in Parliament upaloopa Jun 2013 #53