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Showing Original Post only (View all)Ed Snowden: Leakers “should be shot in the balls,” and "cut this Social Security bullshit" [View all]
In 2009, Ed Snowden said leakers should be shot. Then he became onehttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/exclusive-in-2009-ed-snowden-said-leakers-should-be-shot-then-he-became-one/
Note: Snowden went under the name< TheTrueHOOHA> on #arsificial, a channel on Ars Technica's public Internet Relay Chat (IRC) server.
Leakers should be shot in the balls
Snowden may have leaned libertarian on some issues, but he also exhibited strong support for America's security state apparatus. He didn't just work for it as a quiet dissident. Four years before he would leak the country's secrets, Snowden was cheering its actions and insisting that it needed healthy funding. To anyone who questioned US actions in his favored online hangout, he could be derisive.
Livid about the across-the-board defense cuts that were planned under Obama, Snowden acidly joked that "[m]aybe we could just outsource our defense needs to india."
Worse yet, during a remarkable January 2009 chat, Snowden wrote that Obama had "appointed a fucking politician to run the CIA." In that same conversation, he vented his rage over reading a New York Times article about US actions in Iran, which was based on confidential leaks.
< TheTrueHOOHA> HOLY SHIT
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/washington/11iran.html?_r=1&hp
< TheTrueHOOHA> WTF NYTIMES
< TheTrueHOOHA> Are they TRYING to start a war?
Jesus christ
they're like wikileaks
< User19> they're just reporting, dude.
< TheTrueHOOHA> They're reporting classified shit
< User19> shrugs
< TheTrueHOOHA> about an unpopular country surrounded by enemies already engaged in a war
and about our interactions with said country regarding planning sovereignity violations of another country
you don't put that shit in the NEWSPAPER
< User19> meh
< TheTrueHOOHA> moreover, who the fuck are the anonymous sources telling them this?
< TheTrueHOOHA> those people should be shot in the balls.
Snowden may have leaned libertarian on some issues, but he also exhibited strong support for America's security state apparatus. He didn't just work for it as a quiet dissident. Four years before he would leak the country's secrets, Snowden was cheering its actions and insisting that it needed healthy funding. To anyone who questioned US actions in his favored online hangout, he could be derisive.
Livid about the across-the-board defense cuts that were planned under Obama, Snowden acidly joked that "[m]aybe we could just outsource our defense needs to india."
Worse yet, during a remarkable January 2009 chat, Snowden wrote that Obama had "appointed a fucking politician to run the CIA." In that same conversation, he vented his rage over reading a New York Times article about US actions in Iran, which was based on confidential leaks.
< TheTrueHOOHA> HOLY SHIT
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/washington/11iran.html?_r=1&hp
< TheTrueHOOHA> WTF NYTIMES
< TheTrueHOOHA> Are they TRYING to start a war?
Jesus christ
they're like wikileaks
< User19> they're just reporting, dude.
< TheTrueHOOHA> They're reporting classified shit
< User19> shrugs
< TheTrueHOOHA> about an unpopular country surrounded by enemies already engaged in a war
and about our interactions with said country regarding planning sovereignity violations of another country
you don't put that shit in the NEWSPAPER
< User19> meh
< TheTrueHOOHA> moreover, who the fuck are the anonymous sources telling them this?
< TheTrueHOOHA> those people should be shot in the balls.
There's tons of libertarian swill here, btw. A sampling of his views on Social Security:
Once Obama took office, Snowden groaned about his policies with increasing frequency. Fears that Obama might revive an assault weapons ban didn't sit well with him as a defender of the Second Amendment. Another sticking point was social security. Snowden was an individualist, even when it was unpopular; he saw little need for a safety net.
< TheTrueHOOHA> save money? cut this social security bullshit
< User11> hahahayes
< User18> Yeah! Fuck old people!
< User11> social security is bullshit
< User11> let's just toss old people out in the street
< User18> Old people could move in with [User11].
< User11> NOOO
< User11> they smell funny
< TheTrueHOOHA> Somehow, our society managed to make it hundreds of years without social security just fine
< TheTrueHOOHA> you fucking retards
< TheTrueHOOHA> Magically the world changed after the new deal, and old people became made of glass
< TheTrueHOOHA> yeah, that makes sense
< TheTrueHOOHA> save money? cut this social security bullshit
< User11> hahahayes
< User18> Yeah! Fuck old people!
< User11> social security is bullshit
< User11> let's just toss old people out in the street
< User18> Old people could move in with [User11].
< User11> NOOO
< User11> they smell funny
< TheTrueHOOHA> Somehow, our society managed to make it hundreds of years without social security just fine
< TheTrueHOOHA> you fucking retards
< TheTrueHOOHA> Magically the world changed after the new deal, and old people became made of glass
< TheTrueHOOHA> yeah, that makes sense
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Ed Snowden: Leakers “should be shot in the balls,” and "cut this Social Security bullshit" [View all]
BeyondGeography
Jun 2013
OP
Looks like he was very smart. He knew he was being spied on, like all of us, and he created
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#92
The president disagrees with you. Surprised you didn't know that the 'it's just old news' excuse
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#193
What are you talking about?? Warrants were ALWAYS needed. A Whistle Blower leaked the info
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#318
Good lord, are you seriously not getting it, or pretending not to get it?? Who said Bush was
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#380
I understood perfectly what you wrote. And anyone who uses the talking points 'fans' 'worship'
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#401
It looks like Ecuador's ardor is cooling, too. He may be in that airport for awhile!!!
MADem
Jun 2013
#384
Lol, he just doesn't matter. I'm sorry you're so obsessed with HIM. I am obsessed with our
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#296
You are one of the serially posting people that rip President Obama over reforms to Chained CPI.
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#316
I will check back periodically to see a link to ONE post, just ONE, of mine 'ripping the President'
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#320
The Snowden apologists will figure out some way to pull the blinders tighter over their
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#317
OK-- now what do you think about broad electronic surveillance without probable cause...?
mike_c
Jun 2013
#3
true heroes do what they perceive to be the right thing even when they know...
grasswire
Jun 2013
#266
Naomi Wolfe made a similar argument to yours, and was quickly & summarily thrown under the bus.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#416
I have trouble wrapping my head around being against the Patriot Act and its abuses, and at the same
RC
Jun 2013
#235
What does that have to do with Snowden exposing evidence of the abuse of our Rights?
RC
Jun 2013
#257
His life insurance policy is to imitate every spy/espionage movie ever made?
Maximumnegro
Jun 2013
#282
Wow, cheap shot. You didn't answer the poster, you just characterized him with that "right wing
MADem
Jun 2013
#248
"I think he's a stinky, smelly hot potato who will cause more trouble than he's worth."
BeyondGeography
Jun 2013
#138
hey, you still haven't responded to my question about indiscriminate electronic surveillance....
mike_c
Jun 2013
#167
I also think the state secrets privilege can be easily abused and am glad the 9th Circuit
BeyondGeography
Jun 2013
#197
MADem, I adore you because you always come prepared. That is very useful information, and a very...
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#419
Time will tell indeed. I haven't seen the movie, but that graphic is so appropriate.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#435
Agree on all points, here is Ecuador today I presume contradicting the hot rhetoric about trade
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#458
He knows full well that if he unilaterally declines tariff relief, which is being held out as a
MADem
Jun 2013
#459
My analysis: he's in the Venezuelan Embassy and was whisked away under diplomatic immunity
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#62
I really can't tell, but this was the pic I was thinking of--the Russian press says it Ecuadorian!
MADem
Jun 2013
#260
Hacking is a primary Chinese economic and military strategy, as you well know
BeyondGeography
Jun 2013
#395
Hee hee--At that price, I'd rather buy ice cream for the kids at the beach, and read the
MADem
Jun 2013
#429
yep, and only one of them will be of lasting, historical importance to ordinary American citizens...
mike_c
Jun 2013
#21
I'l bet that was a massive disappointment...who wouldn't want to be represented by a lawyer with a
MADem
Jun 2013
#281
Woulldn't it be something if the guy was just a big phony? A BSer with attitude?
MADem
Jun 2013
#289
May I remind you... Obama (2007): "That means no more illegal wiretapping of American
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#82
The Bush Administration was wire-tapping americans without a warrant and it had
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#319
You “Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.”
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#9
can't wait to hear how he likes the People's Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#52
and you gotta figure at least some of those were literally firearms/testicles related
arely staircase
Jun 2013
#76
Has he "evolved" to the point where he would accept changes to Chained CPI instead of
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#321
two separate issue, or so many keep saying. Want to talk about the NSA- start another thread about
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#15
WHAT the NSA was getting around spying on Americans by using British assets?!!!!!!!!
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#45
Thank you. ....So the NSA knew it was breaking the law tapping into Americans. But chose to do an
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#74
The best way to get the NSA off your back, especially if you KNOW they're eavesdropping ...
Myrina
Jun 2013
#19
You mean people don't always express their true feelings in a public online forum?
Jarla
Jun 2013
#80
Do you truly think the NASA would have let Snowden walk out with secrets if it had been
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#322
So the fact that he's a dick makes the information less credible and damaging?
TalkingDog
Jun 2013
#20
They're now saying lalalalala I can't hear you! with their fingers in their ears
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#42
They have anyone that dare to disagree with them on Ignore, like children that would
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#323
are you disputing the revelations of indiscriminate electronic surveillance of private citizens?
mike_c
Jun 2013
#64
I'm not a "comrade" no need for ad-hominems. If I look at the side walk you stepped on that's not
uponit7771
Jun 2013
#119
The many twists and turns to justify who this guy really is, are astounding. The rush to canonize..
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#273
I love "transparency", don't you Cha? Even if it ensnares Mr. Snowden, let's get it ALL out there.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#410
There is the issue of Snowden AND there's the issue of mass surveillance and data
groovedaddy
Jun 2013
#87
No. It's not at all. I've met some people who are wound very tight in the IC and IT businesses.
leveymg
Jun 2013
#159
The only nonstop government spying that's going on is in this guy's wacky imagination.
randome
Jun 2013
#98
I'd say the country is evenly split about whether or not that constitutes 'spying'.
randome
Jun 2013
#199
and yet he'd posted for years about his concerns about the security state so who the hell
cali
Jun 2013
#86
or that he's intelligent and sensible enough to change his mind when new information revises...
mike_c
Jun 2013
#121
I would have no problem believing that if he showed any evidence of his claims.
randome
Jun 2013
#129
he has released documents that clearly support his "claims" and the government does not dispute them
mike_c
Jun 2013
#136
President Obama once said that marriage was between a man and a woman
Puzzledtraveller
Jun 2013
#124
I agree, the poster obviously fell asleep in "analogy" class. That one doesn't work at all.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#425
Again, the NSA doesn't tap your phones or email unless you have continuously shown up
bluestate10
Jun 2013
#326
If he said "Vietnam was a noble cause!" or "women shouldn't be allowed to vote"
kenny blankenship
Jun 2013
#131
I wonder if he still hates social security and refers to people as retards. n/t
Cali_Democrat
Jun 2013
#157
It is hypocritical to claim that a person who said X in 2011 should be expected to feel the
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#203
Check out the Vanity Fair article I posted, try to get past the title about Snowden's world tour
flamingdem
Jun 2013
#369
Why is it so difficult for some people to think outside a straight line?
Spitfire of ATJ
Jun 2013
#215
Why is Gallagher ranked just one step below Augusto Pinochet on the bastardy scale?
kenny blankenship
Jun 2013
#285
so...this means the info he leaked ISN'T TRUE? If not, this deserve a "so what."
yurbud
Jun 2013
#233
After interviewing him, the Wikileaks attorneys have said they won't represent him.
randome
Jun 2013
#265
Except he posted his pics. I don't just say just "anything".. I mean what I say and I know my
Cha
Jun 2013
#367
now that we know this - can the NSA get back to its job? I for one am grateful that records of all
Douglas Carpenter
Jun 2013
#284
The real hypocrisy is at the top. For example Obama previously campaigned against gay marriage.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#294
Making it about Snowden is a distraction. THIS IS ABOUT THE SURVEILLANCE STATE.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#336
Yeah, that's what I thought. You don't care about the surveillance state. WOW.
Th1onein
Jun 2013
#351
So fucking clever.. Didn't like PBO's Defense Cuts.. sounds like the problem is Snowden not PBO
Cha
Jun 2013
#335
And five minutes of CNN will assure any doubters that it is, indeed, about Snowden.
ucrdem
Jun 2013
#339
I'm pretty upset that this nitwit was given so much acccess to everyone's personal info
Quantess
Jun 2013
#383
Without evidence to show that the NSA is breaking all the laws and regulations on the books...
randome
Jun 2013
#394
Is this supposed to have something to do with whether or not NSA spying on Americans--
eridani
Jun 2013
#391
OHMIGOD, some guy who is besides the point posted some dumb shit on the internet
mhatrw
Jun 2013
#413
This thread is HELL-A huge & like clockwork, all the "THIS IS NOT ABOUT SNOWDEN" toadies...
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#434