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NM_Birder

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33. A gun is still just a tool.

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:37 AM

Jun 2013

I've been collecting, using, selling and modifying firearms of all kinds my whole life, along with most of my friends.

I would no sooner mishandle a firearm, than I would drive with a bottle of scotch in my lap. Both a car and a firearm are capable of killing people if misused, why are drinkers who own cars given a pass, but firearm enthusiasts are shown in statistical charts everywhere to be more prone to violence ?

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Zimmerman carried a gun to protect himself - as a result, [View all] hedgehog Jun 2013 OP

Not as ruined as Trayvon's life, though. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #1

I was pointing out that if you carry a gun for self protection, hedgehog Jun 2013 #7

Very true. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #8

Very true FOR ZIMMERMAN. Bake Jun 2013 #39

It is quite the irony sarisataka Jun 2013 #10

I took a class on firearms safety and the instructor had had to use his firarm to legally defend... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #17

The instructor obviously didn't think his life was ruined. Robb Jun 2013 #18

Your experience just proves that there are those out there chemenger Jun 2013 #20

Years ago, I was in a self defense class - a couple of the young guys hedgehog Jun 2013 #21

When I took the course for my CCW permit melm00se Jun 2013 #23

Good advice. It's an enormous responsibility. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #25

People sometimes do both. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #32

You can't draw that inference from Zippy's case only. Bake Jun 2013 #40

Who fault was that? Chisox08 Jun 2013 #2

He carried a gun to hunt humans. onehandle Jun 2013 #3

Yep. premium Jun 2013 #4

There's none of Zimmermans blood or DNA on the hands of TM...NONE, Zimmerman lied about being uponit7771 Jun 2013 #5

The defense will have to address that issue... Bay Boy Jun 2013 #30

+1...I'm curious on this point alone on how they address it. Blood doesn't clean away from hands uponit7771 Jun 2013 #34

And even if Martin did fight, it doesn't excuse Zimmerman, IMO. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #35

+1, Z stalked a kid through a dark neighborhood with a loaded gun for no reason with bad intentions. uponit7771 Jun 2013 #36

And some people carry a gun to protect themselves and as a result their lives are saved. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #6

Agreed, the pllural of anecdote is not data: hedgehog Jun 2013 #11

And more people in the US die in car accidents more than they do in train accidents. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #12

Check the second chart - about who gets killed with guns! hedgehog Jun 2013 #14

I'm not surprised that many murders involve people known to the murderer. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #15

If you need a gun to protect yourself from the people you know, hedgehog Jun 2013 #16

I don't think there's the slightest chance that anyone I know will shoot me. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #19

From what I've read, you are the threat to the people you know, hedgehog Jun 2013 #22

Well, most of my friends are armed to the teeth as well. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #24

Dont give into their rethorics. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #28

Anti-gun posts seem to be all too common here. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #41

A gun is still just a tool. NM_Birder Jun 2013 #33

Isn't that victim blaming... Bay Boy Jun 2013 #31

Rule #2: Immediately Try To Mis-Direct. Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #37

Rule #3: Using an analogy is not misdirection. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #38

I have never carried a gun. I have been shot at and threatened with a gun but never shot. Lint Head Jun 2013 #9

I don't believe that was why he carried a gun Bandit Jun 2013 #13

BS. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2013 #27

The operative word's being "life"----as directly opposed to "death," as in "TRAYVON MARTIN." WinkyDink Jun 2013 #29