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61. Frankly, I don't give a fuck about what he said in the past. As long as his policies reflect

Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:42 PM

Jun 2013

progression on this issue, whatever he said in the past is moot.

Many Democratic politicians held the exact same view and have now matured on this issue.

Bill Clinton said the same thing. He signed DOMA into law and championed the law on the campaign trail in 2006. He now fully supports marriage equality.

The fact that Obama didn't wait until his second term or until he was out of office--unlike Bill Clinton and a lot of Democrats--should mean something. But, it's never enough is it? OBAMA = BAD, BAD, BAD MAN!!!!

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No President Has Ever Been Better To Gay People. Thank You President Obama. [View all] DonRedwood Jun 2013 OP

You chose the wrong website dennis4868 Jun 2013 #1

Odd how he is responsible for every little dept of government DonRedwood Jun 2013 #6

God forbid if Ed Markey lost his Senate race; everyone on DU and the left bloggosphere Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #59

The Supreme Court is not a department of the executive branch, though. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #111

Yeah, I know it hurts like shit to give Pres Obama credit for anything.. these peeople disagree.. Cha Jun 2013 #124

I give Obama credit for the things he does. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #137

some people will turn anything into a chance to bash DU carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #17

Still a very happy day!! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #48

Well said. Flying Dream Blues Jun 2013 #95

It's not DU. It's the Old Elm Brigade that overruns this place that never give Obama credit. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #151

The poster has a point davidpdx Jun 2013 #153

I thought bashing DU was verboten. I notice he didnt stick around to enter rhett o rick Jun 2013 #166

Well he didn't really bash DU davidpdx Jun 2013 #172

I'm with the OP all the way. Big ups to Obama. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #29

Ain't that the friggin truth! BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #36

He is responsible for a tiny IRS office in Cincinatti but not for the DOJ not supporting anti-gay DonRedwood Jun 2013 #49

Yep. ODS is thick and alive among the BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #51

That rat was smelly from the get-go. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #57

But the defense that even being a two-faced hypocrite that somehow Snowden Number23 Jun 2013 #147

OMG! Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #159

Can you believe it??! And what makes it all the more astonishing is that Number23 Jun 2013 #162

You lie! Coccydynia Jun 2013 #96

Oh boo hoo to you. bigwillq Jun 2013 #142

You grabbed the #1 response to try to start a fight. Maybe it's you that's on the wrong site. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #164

It appears you dropped this turd and left. Your job done. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #165

Obama aint shit! (he didn't light his hair on fire or nothin!) /sarcasm <-cause this is needed here uponit7771 Jun 2013 #2

You are correct still_one Jun 2013 #3

Kick! Rec! Love! Hekate Jun 2013 #4

Not good enough for those blinded by their pristine ideology. DCBob Jun 2013 #5

Obama is so quiet in his political chess game DonRedwood Jun 2013 #9

I think thats the problem.. they want shouting, fist banging, cussing, spitting, etc. DCBob Jun 2013 #12

The right has been so nasty...it is hard to take that DonRedwood Jun 2013 #26

I guess they didn't get it when he was labeled, early on as No Drama Obama. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #38

He has his own style of politics DonRedwood Jun 2013 #60

Which can be infuriating at times, I know. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #146

They want SPORTS... tridim Jun 2013 #112

roller derby? DCBob Jun 2013 #141

If the US is still here 100, 500, 1,000 years from now Politicub Jun 2013 #120

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #7

Someones always gotta piss in the punchbowl. bunnies Jun 2013 #10

no more pancake? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #19

Figured I could do for a change today. bunnies Jun 2013 #23

Phew. OK. I don't like change. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #27

The troll is gone. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #67

yayy! bunnies Jun 2013 #72

is the freak republic missing someone? Skittles Jun 2013 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #25

Should we give credit to Bush? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #28

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #39

They should only get blame? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #53

Is that what the OP said? NO! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #31

New member, anti-Obama, I smell a troll. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #54

Who the hell said that? uppityperson Jun 2013 #47

ZAP...and another troll is gone. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #68

My my Skittles, you are quite the Troll Hunter. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #66

that one had a capital T on his forehead Skittles Jun 2013 #106

-1 Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #30

-2 BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #41

Frankly, I don't give a fuck about what he said in the past. As long as his policies reflect Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #61

I agree with you wholeheartedly..... chillfactor Jun 2013 #8

Millions in unemployment lines are cheering today!! leftstreet Jun 2013 #11

Gay people are unemployed too. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #20

-1 Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #33

-2 BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #42

-3 Hekate Jun 2013 #78

-4 Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #85

-5 snooper2 Jun 2013 #103

-6 treestar Jun 2013 #135

History will be very kind to him on this issue Prism Jun 2013 #13

His guidance of the DOJ was the most gay friendly thing a Pres has done for a long DonRedwood Jun 2013 #40

K&R. You are right. He is a decent and fair man Whisp Jun 2013 #14

I am a little confused Doctor_J Jun 2013 #16

Sure, its all Obama's fault. DCBob Jun 2013 #18

snicker. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #21

+1 Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #34

+2 BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #43

How can you think that it's Obama's fault? Apparently he cant close Gitmo, cant stop domestic spyin rhett o rick Jun 2013 #173

Which President do you think has done more for Gay People? Harding? Grant? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #22

It's a real pisser when you have to go a whole day without shitting on Obama. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #37

I hope you're not a real doctor. great white snark Jun 2013 #62

LOL! nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #80

The one that deserves the credit zeemike Jun 2013 #69

Obama "Has no vote on the SCOTUS" -- so who appointed the justices on his watch? Hekate Jun 2013 #81

Well I have no idea. zeemike Jun 2013 #94

+1 leftstreet Jun 2013 #145

Yeah, it is a terrific day for gay rights. Doctor_J Jun 2013 #121

Scalia certainly blames this DOMA ruling on President Obama in large part. DevonRex Jun 2013 #24

Thanks, Obama: ProSense Jun 2013 #32

I totally agree with you. nevergiveup Jun 2013 #35

I think I credit the electorate even more. Orsino Jun 2013 #44

I agree. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #45

Thank you President Obama. 100%. Forward.While Republicantealibertarians BushPaulfamilyinc- Reverse. graham4anything Jun 2013 #46

+1 Hekate Jun 2013 #84

I have, at times, been critical of Obama... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #50

In agreement. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #150

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #52

That's President NoDoma to you, sir! SaveAmerica Jun 2013 #55

I have to agree while there are things I've disagreed with the president on he deserves Arcanetrance Jun 2013 #56

"Better" Fearless Jun 2013 #58

The President ordered the DOJ to stop with DOMA, and the service to stop DADT DonRedwood Jun 2013 #64

Thank you Don. sibelian Jun 2013 #71

Your wrong Fearless Jun 2013 #73

You're wrong. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #89

Umm... Fearless Jun 2013 #105

What part of "reason" do you not understand? SunSeeker Jun 2013 #132

... SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #65

Bull fucking shit. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #74

And which two did they replace? And how would they have voted? Fearless Jun 2013 #87

By that logic, Bill Clinton deserves as much credit. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #104

Exactly. Fearless Jun 2013 #114

Right. A McCain presidency and Romney Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #138

Would you not then thank the voters? Fearless Jun 2013 #140

His approach to ending DADT was/is SUPERIOR to the way you are advocating that he should have gone. phleshdef Jun 2013 #110

Well said. nt riqster Jun 2013 #116

Actually no Fearless Jun 2013 #122

What you said was complete and utter historically inaccurate bullshit. phleshdef Jun 2013 #123

Words are not actions. Fearless Jun 2013 #125

First off, in politics, words can most certainly be actions. phleshdef Jun 2013 #126

I love how this is driving you bananas Politicub Jun 2013 #119

+1 SunSeeker Jun 2013 #127

Wow, I was just about to post the same thingish.. and saw yours.. Cha Jun 2013 #131

Yes, thank you, Mr. President! mountain grammy Jun 2013 #63

I feel like I've stumbled into an alternate universe where the President is actually appreciated.... Rowdyboy Jun 2013 #70

lol Rowdyboy.. there are some in this very Cha Jun 2013 #134

Yeah, pretty anti-democrat in here lately... subversive trolls? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #174

Tears of joy for you and yours, DonRedwood Hekate Jun 2013 #75

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2013 #76

No President has done more for gay people. Iggo Jun 2013 #77

No President has really done anything for Gay people. So that's not saying much. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #79

You are correct. Iggo Jun 2013 #128

He's certainly come a long way since "marriage is between a man and a woman.... Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #82

I hadn't heard about Governor Brown's announcement wryter2000 Jun 2013 #83

Credit where credit is due cali Jun 2013 #86

I'm happy for you, DonRedwood Aristus Jun 2013 #88

Well said, Aristus! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #115

This is something we all can agree on! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #90

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2013 #91

True Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #92

The Supreme Court made those decisions, not Obama. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #93

He appointed two of those judges BainsBane Jun 2013 #97

Then should we also give Reagan credit for appointing Kennedy? After all, Kennedy wrote totodeinhere Jun 2013 #99

Yes, actually BainsBane Jun 2013 #100

Well, he also appointed Scalia, so Reagan gets a net of zero. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #107

You asked if he should get credit for Kennedy BainsBane Jun 2013 #109

It was someone else who asked. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #113

Obama directly set events in motion that led to this case making it to the court in the first place. phleshdef Jun 2013 #102

so, you admit it. you just can't credit Obama for anything. understood. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #152

I didn't say that. You did. But look. The whole country is totodeinhere Jun 2013 #156

First, let me offer personal congratulations. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #98

Beautiful post. I am so happy Flying Dream Blues Jun 2013 #101

I give that much to Potus. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #108

Here comes the sun~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #117

I'll be down at the Courthouse Sunken Gardens at 6pm to celebrate with my friends! Hekate Jun 2013 #130

I caught it on DU~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #133

I hope I'll see some of the adults I watched grow up as kids; hope to see my daughter's girlfriend Hekate Jun 2013 #136

Tell everyone that Boston says hello~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #139

+1 and the gay community and its allies will always remember that Politicub Jun 2013 #118

Mahalo, DonRedwood, for your sweet tribute and acknowledging Pres Obama's leadership on Cha Jun 2013 #129

Thank you to President Obama and everyone else bigwillq Jun 2013 #143

I like your post. Number23 Jun 2013 #148

Thank you BWQ. You've always given DevonRex Jun 2013 #161

He has become a strong advocate. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #144

agreed. no president has. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #149

I agree. I still cannot understand the gay people who praise Clinton when he was the one who DJWBlue Jun 2013 #154

Yup! Kudos to President Obama! tblue Jun 2013 #155

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #157

That's not what Scalia said in his dissent. And rim job for Obama? DevonRex Jun 2013 #160

He was a slow starter but once he got wound up he has come through big time.... Rowdyboy Jun 2013 #158

+1 Cha Jun 2013 #163

What does this have to do with the NSA? Bradical79 Jun 2013 #167

And also give credit to the Dems who blocked Judge Bork for SCOTUS Zen Democrat Jun 2013 #168

Kicked and recommended. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #169

No need... Crow73 Jun 2013 #170

+1 and thanks to Obama! Saviolo Jun 2013 #171