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uppityperson

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110. Because SOME things were excluded but not ALL things were excluded.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jun 2013

The Opening statement is not a presentation of facts and there are some things which are not excluded. The jury is supposed to listen to evidence presented during the trial. The Opening Statement is not evidence.

http://www.nlrg.com/our-services/jury-research-division/jury-research-publications/persuasion-at-trial-opening-statements/

he opening statement is a valuable contributor to the persuasion process at trial. Through opening statements each side lets the jury know what evidence they will present and what this evidence is supposed to prove. This is the primary opportunity for attorneys to present their positions to the jury prior to the introduction of the evidence upon which the jurors will base their decisions. The critical feature of opening statements is that frameworks are advanced as to how jurors should view the case, an important component since jurors will process evidence in light of whichever framework they adopt. Because information consistent with an adopted framework is generally more easily remembered than information contrary to the adopted framework, a major battle is won when the attorney gets the jury to view the evidence in the case from his or her perspective.
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Third, effective opening statements take advantage of persuasive techniques such as rhetorical questions and inoculation strategies, carefully weaving them into the fabric of the presentation. Rhetorical questions help persuasion by guiding the jurors' search for answers and, in some cases, implying answers on their own. For strong cases, placing rhetorical questions near the beginning of the presentation or subdivision of the statement fosters persuasion because the answers will be forthcoming. However, for weak cases, rhetorical questions placed in the beginning of the presentation reduce persuasion because the answers to these questions are either not forthcoming or are equivocal. Rhetorical questions are also effective when placed near the end of the presentation when they address the weak points of the opponent's case.

Inoculation is a technique which increases the resistance to persuasion. As the name implies, this technique is analogous to the medical technique of inoculating patients to increase their resistance to disease. Inoculation in persuasion occurs by exposing jurors to a weakened version of the opponent's arguments and successfully refuting these arguments, thus making the jurors aware of counterarguments to the opponent's position. When the opponent later raises the argument, jurors are able to more successfully resist it.

Fourth, persuasive opening statements enable the jurors to see the case from the client's perspective. They take jurors from the realm of the outside observer to that of an actor in the event being recreated by describing the events as seen through the client's eyes. This shift in focus enables jurors to have greater empathy for the client. Obviously, jurors cannot be asked to "put themselves in the party's shoes." However, jurors will be placed in those shoes by an opening statement that effectively walks them through the case....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opening_statement
An opening statement is generally the first occasion that the trier of fact (jury or judge) has to hear from a lawyer in a trial, aside possibly from questioning during voir dire. The opening statement is generally constructed to serve as a "road map" for the fact-finder. This is especially essential, in many jury trials, since jurors (at least theoretically) know nothing at all about the case before the trial, (or if they do, they are strictly instructed by the judge to put preconceived notions aside). Though such statements may be dramatic and vivid, they must be limited to the evidence reasonably expected to be presented during the trial. Attorneys generally conclude opening statements with a reminder that at the conclusion of evidence, the attorney will return to ask the fact-finder to find in his or her client's favor. See, http://www.uscourts.gov/EducationalResources/ClassroomActivities/RealLifeScenarios/TextingWhileDriving/DifferencesBetweenOpeningAndClosingArgs.aspx.

Opening statements are, in theory, not allowed to be argumentative, or suggest the inferences that fact-finders should draw from the evidence they will hear. In actual practice, the line between statement and argument is often unclear and many attorneys will infuse at least a little argumentation into their opening (often prefacing borderline arguments with some variation on the phrase, "As we will show you...&quot . Objections, though permissible during opening statements, are very unusual, and by professional courtesy are usually reserved only for egregious conduct.

Generally, the prosecution in a criminal case and plaintiff in a civil case is the first to offer an opening statement, and defendants go second. Defendants are also allowed the option of delaying their opening statement until after the close of the prosecution or plaintiff's case. Few take this option, however, so as not to allow the other party's argument to stand uncontradicted for so long.

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The photos are haunting wercal Jun 2013 #1
If Martin had been repeatedly bashing Zimmerman's head against the pavement, winter is coming Jun 2013 #3
Are you sayimg they didn't have a fight? wercal Jun 2013 #5
I'm saying the altercation couldn't have lasted very long after Zimmerman started bleeding. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #6
Not the kind of fight that would have warranted the big guy using a gun against a teen. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #133
Umm, it wasn't DNA that killed Trayvon...it was a bullet! kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #178
GZ DNA on TM and vise versa ErikwithaK Jun 2013 #211
Or under Trayvon's fingernails. pacalo Jun 2013 #7
DNA testing is an amplification technique... targetpractice Jun 2013 #4
Cells, not molecules. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #18
No, it's molecules that are amplified by PCR. DNA molecules are contained within the nuclei of cells piedmont Jun 2013 #109
And it is cells, not bare DNA, that are left behind. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #161
No one said anything about bare DNA. piedmont Jun 2013 #164
actually, dna is molecules and you amplify the molecules of dna magical thyme Jun 2013 #113
But you don't shed bare DNA, you shed CELLS. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #162
I wrote "you need to FIND cells," but really you are finding the dna inside the cells magical thyme Jun 2013 #172
If I remember the autopsy report correctly, the blood under zimmy's nose came, not from a hit niyad Jun 2013 #8
I don't know anything about that wercal Jun 2013 #10
because, according to zimmy, that violent little punk (also known as the person he was stalking) niyad Jun 2013 #11
None of that explains wercal Jun 2013 #13
seriously? I just explained why, and you STILL don't understand it? wow. niyad Jun 2013 #15
No I still don't understand wercal Jun 2013 #16
it was explained, cannot help if you do not understand. niyad Jun 2013 #21
I don't understand either. Zimmerman's not dead. Why would the autopsy mention him? nolabear Jun 2013 #24
He is asking hooptie Jun 2013 #25
well, no it wasn't explained. NM_Birder Jun 2013 #26
Not explained one bit wercal Jun 2013 #28
I think poster is referring to the DNA report. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #44
Because in homicides, the Medical Examiner/Coroner is also collecting forensic evidence. Melinda Jun 2013 #58
yeah, why would an autopsy on the deceased, talk about the murderer? It wouldn't. graham4anything Jun 2013 #55
Autopsy JDPriestly Jun 2013 #140
I am wondering auntsue Jun 2013 #160
There's zimmerman blood on zimmermans gun, he hit himself with his own gun uponit7771 Jun 2013 #29
Yup Politicalboi Jun 2013 #53
The cut on his knuckle could have come from his hand hitting the sidewalk Zoeisright Jun 2013 #14
Ok I'll bite...how did Zimmermqn's nose get bloodied? wercal Jun 2013 #17
His own gun did that Politicalboi Jun 2013 #54
So Zimmerman was crouching down, his nose at the level of Martin's chest? wercal Jun 2013 #59
what part of "no DNA" are you failing to comprehend? noiretextatique Jun 2013 #77
Said poster was just pretending opening arguments Rex Jun 2013 #79
indeed...we need a better quality of troll noiretextatique Jun 2013 #90
Now it is about what was hashed out before the case went to court. Rex Jun 2013 #92
good...not only as asshole noiretextatique Jun 2013 #187
Ah - a CSI Expert wercal Jun 2013 #93
lack of DNA on his hands raises questions about other parts of Zimmerman's story magical thyme Jun 2013 #129
according to this person noiretextatique Jun 2013 #188
I think you are incorrect -- in opening statement prosecution raised doubt specifically about Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #150
Zimmerman says he was on his back when he shot Martin magical thyme Jun 2013 #126
There was no "cut" on TM's knuckle, there was a "small abrasion" on his left ring finger.... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #30
Well....how did Zimmerman's nose get bloodied? wercal Jun 2013 #33
I bloodied my own nose once on the door frame getting out of the car too quickly LanternWaste Jun 2013 #38
I see - A car door hit him in the face wercal Jun 2013 #47
what part of no DNA found on martin's hands are you failing to grasp? noiretextatique Jun 2013 #94
no, any reasonable person does NOT necessarily agree with your point of view. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #151
The same question can be asked about his own gun!!! Achoms razor comes into effect now... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #42
Occam's Razor? wercal Jun 2013 #45
Maybe he smacked his nose on TM's body or on the ground as they were wrestling around. uppityperson Jun 2013 #65
I am going to repeat this again wercal Jun 2013 #67
You mean the defense let the prosecution make their opening statement? Rex Jun 2013 #69
Without making an objection - yes wercal Jun 2013 #71
LOL! *Chrickets* Rex Jun 2013 #72
See post 74 wercal Jun 2013 #83
No problem, you got caught making stuff up. Rex Jun 2013 #89
Making stuff up? wercal Jun 2013 #100
Link to "everybody...has accepted this as fact" and no, Opening Statement is not "fact" uppityperson Jun 2013 #105
Ok not everybody wercal Jun 2013 #116
try again -- you presume too much wisdom Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #152
"74. I do not think you understand the difference between opening statements and during testimony"? uppityperson Jun 2013 #95
I do not think you understand the difference between opening statements and during testimony. eom uppityperson Jun 2013 #74
Hell, I've seen objections during jury selection wercal Jun 2013 #81
Yes, there are objections during jury selection as that is different also. Opening statement time uppityperson Jun 2013 #82
I've never read about an objection to the opening statement Rex Jun 2013 #86
Did you read the paper last week? wercal Jun 2013 #102
Opening statements are subjective. Not everything is excluded. They are NOT presentations of uppityperson Jun 2013 #107
Do you want me to keep repeating the same thing? wercal Jun 2013 #112
Read this about Opening Statements. Done with you. uppityperson Jun 2013 #114
So you actually put in bold wercal Jun 2013 #119
Because allegations about Martin's past are irrelevant JDPriestly Jun 2013 #143
Didn't the lawyers spend a week arguing with each other wercal Jun 2013 #96
Or maybe they were sure there is no proof that happened so let the defense claim whatever uppityperson Jun 2013 #98
I think they understand, just don't want to admit to it. Rex Jun 2013 #104
I don't think you understand what lying in court is all about wercal Jun 2013 #115
During the evidence and witness part, yes, they do. During opening statement? Nope. uppityperson Jun 2013 #117
I urge you to take some classes in human communications. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #154
Zimmerman has said so many things that are not Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #153
I am going to repeat this again. That does not prove how a 17 yr old got an abrasion on his finger. uppityperson Jun 2013 #70
The defense let the prosecutor making their opening statement. Rex Jun 2013 #73
Opening statements are subjective, are telling jurors what they hope to persuade them of. uppityperson Jun 2013 #75
*Crickets* Rex Jun 2013 #76
You must be right wercal Jun 2013 #84
And you know exactly what they hashed out, again with the ambiguous posting. Rex Jun 2013 #91
Well I know with great certainty wercal Jun 2013 #99
They did and yes, they allow subjective stuff in opening statements. It is the ONE time during a uppityperson Jun 2013 #97
Why didn't the defense bring up Martin's twitter feed that mentioned drug use? wercal Jun 2013 #106
Because SOME things were excluded but not ALL things were excluded. uppityperson Jun 2013 #110
why object when it's easy to get the jury to question Zims truthfulness? Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #155
They were arguing very basic considerations like relevancy. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #145
Since you don't appear to have gotten an answer that satisfies you, let me try. last1standing Jun 2013 #130
Thank you for writing all that to him and good luck. uppityperson Jun 2013 #147
thank you!! Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #156
I left DU for four years because I was tire of getting sucked in. last1standing Jun 2013 #170
That "fact" may or may not be in quesition. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #141
in the Prosecution's opening, they said the cut was on his left hand, but he was right-handed. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #103
If I was being accosted by some one who was in pursuit of me I wouldn't hesitate lumpy Jun 2013 #165
It's not obvious at all that Martin hit Zimmerman yardwork Jun 2013 #23
Well the simplest conclusion is usually the correct conclusion wercal Jun 2013 #32
Except that the cut was on Martin's LEFT hand, and he was RIGHT handed ... Myrina Jun 2013 #35
Have you ever boxed? wercal Jun 2013 #51
Was Trayvon a boxer? Politicalboi Jun 2013 #56
You tell me, after watching this clip wercal Jun 2013 #64
give it up...you'd do better here noiretextatique Jun 2013 #122
We don't know the verbal exchange betreen Z and M unfortunately, if any. lumpy Jun 2013 #167
Uh, no. I haven't. Myrina Jun 2013 #61
No not at all wercal Jun 2013 #66
"believed to be Martin" I object to your facts Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #174
Go ahead and object wercal Jun 2013 #175
I'm pretty sure that 'evidence' was disallowed Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #176
Doesn't matter one bit if it was disallowed wercal Jun 2013 #177
no, the thread has been about how sketchy Zimmerman's claims are, on account of the ACTUAL evidence. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #179
Oh really wercal Jun 2013 #181
what is your agenda? Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #186
You do understand that the burden of proof is not on Zimmerman, right? wercal Jun 2013 #189
Defender of the Zimmy DainBramaged Jun 2013 #190
I guess the poor guy needs somebody who loves him... it's not looking good for him in the courtroom. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #194
and you have proved that Trayvon punched George's noze, if only people would open their eyes!!!! Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #192
No I haven't proven it... wercal Jun 2013 #198
so you think Zimmerman shot him in self-defense Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #200
It really doesn't matter what I think wercal Jun 2013 #202
ok I got a grip and we see things differently. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #206
You are arguing with the Defender of the Zimmy DainBramaged Jun 2013 #191
I know.. I have allowed myself to get sucked into this fruitless loop. Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #193
We figured this one out yesterday DainBramaged Jun 2013 #195
aha... thanks for the insight Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #196
You have no understanding of SYG laws wercal Jun 2013 #199
(sigh) DainBramaged Jun 2013 #201
Cute picture wercal Jun 2013 #203
I have no interest in satisfying your banal desire to prove us Liburals wrong on a single point DainBramaged Jun 2013 #204
So now that you're wrong about SYG... wercal Jun 2013 #205
Martin did NOT...NOT have a cut on his hand. He had a "small abrasion" on his LEFT ring finger uponit7771 Jun 2013 #41
Ok - an abraision is actually more indicative of a punch than a cut wercal Jun 2013 #50
but if the abrasion was from a punch wouldn't Zimmerman's DNA be in that abrasion? liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #52
When did the police look for DNA? wercal Jun 2013 #57
the medical examiner tested martin's hands for DNA noiretextatique Jun 2013 #123
And you are trying to defend Zimmerman why? DainBramaged Jun 2013 #43
Beep Beep Strawman Alert wercal Jun 2013 #48
Wow how lawyeriffic of you..... DainBramaged Jun 2013 #49
I've started to wonder that same thing ... Myrina Jun 2013 #62
Yeah, but it's fun discussing nuk nuks with him.... DainBramaged Jun 2013 #63
the same reason why others are defending zimmerman noiretextatique Jun 2013 #124
my understanding is a small cut on his ring or little finger on his non-dominant hand Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #101
Stand up wercal Jun 2013 #111
doesn't sound as feasible to me but maybe you're right and I guess we'll never know Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #120
Just go to youtube and watch a boxing match wercal Jun 2013 #121
was Trayvon a trained boxer? Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #128
I've posted a fight video elsewhere on this thread wercal Jun 2013 #134
No. However, Zimmerman WAS trained in MMA (mixed martial arts)fighting techniques uppityperson Jun 2013 #148
complete fantasy, per usual noiretextatique Jun 2013 #125
Its how every boxer on the planet boxes wercal Jun 2013 #132
Glad you are starting to recognize that. eom uppityperson Jun 2013 #149
This was hardly a boxing match. Does it really matter, in this case, whether lumpy Jun 2013 #168
was trayvon martin a boxer? noiretextatique Jun 2013 #182
Are u a fighter? bravenak Jun 2013 #158
Yes I used to box wercal Jun 2013 #166
I no longer have to worry about fighting. bravenak Jun 2013 #169
Zimmerman claimed that Martin smothered him with his hand magical thyme Jun 2013 #118
Zimmerman is going to have a big problem with that statement wercal Jun 2013 #131
IIRC, none of Martin's dna was found on Zimmerman's gun magical thyme Jun 2013 #135
Your last sentence was brought up by the prosecution during opening arguments wercal Jun 2013 #136
I don't think it matters that Martin was on top... magical thyme Jun 2013 #138
I thought about getting NSA data before wercal Jun 2013 #139
I was beaned by an icicle 2 years ago magical thyme Jun 2013 #144
another of your ridiculous claims noiretextatique Jun 2013 #207
I've only got bits and pieces of the trial today wercal Jun 2013 #208
Wow, that's quite an article.. pipoman Jun 2013 #2
police officer says martin was FACE DOWN with his hands underneath him--there is NO WAY he could niyad Jun 2013 #9
His position at death says nothing about what he was doing a few seconds before. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #19
riggght--so a few seconds before, he was on top of zimmy, pummeling him, and zimmy manages to flip niyad Jun 2013 #20
flip him over??? GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #22
The bullet entrance wound NM_Birder Jun 2013 #27
WORSE!! Z shoots TM then claims he doesn't know how TM got on his face!! In the Video statement uponit7771 Jun 2013 #31
Didn't TM say something along the line of "you got me" according to Zimmy? vague recollection uppityperson Jun 2013 #68
That was an excellent article. Thank you. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #12
Are there really Zimmerman defenders in this thread? DainBramaged Jun 2013 #34
It Appears So n/t HangOnKids Jun 2013 #36
That tells you they aren't from around here....... DainBramaged Jun 2013 #37
Their playground is like a giant litter box HangOnKids Jun 2013 #39
I'm so stealing your line! displacedtexan Jun 2013 #197
Good way to tell if DU is fud ran....wingers stay away from this little bit of evidence thuogh uponit7771 Jun 2013 #40
yes...alll with low post counts noiretextatique Jun 2013 #78
They are so obvious......why do they think they will change the trial outcome posting here? DainBramaged Jun 2013 #108
we sure as hell do noiretextatique Jun 2013 #127
They usually start in RBKA nut land and land here to ry and play smart DainBramaged Jun 2013 #137
that is very interesting. How do you get in a physical struggle with someone, get bloodied and liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #46
because: zimmerman lied noiretextatique Jun 2013 #80
YEP. Rex Jun 2013 #60
Did he just try to object to his own question?! uponit7771 Jun 2013 #85
the defense attorney doesn't seem very bright eom noiretextatique Jun 2013 #88
i think zimmerman is going to be convicted noiretextatique Jun 2013 #87
Yes, and Rachel Jeantel come across as a credible, JimDandy Jun 2013 #142
I surely hope you're right, but I have a bad feeling about it burnodo Jun 2013 #185
What is the story in so far as Martin's DNA on Zimmerman? JDPriestly Jun 2013 #146
This is the part I need explained too...from that evidence alone it seems Z should take a plea uponit7771 Jun 2013 #159
i may be wrong, but i am not sure if he was tested noiretextatique Jun 2013 #183
Including his hands? So Trevon couldn't have smashed his head into the sidewalk? Motown_Johnny Jun 2013 #157
correct. which mean zimmerman is a liar noiretextatique Jun 2013 #184
Not sure what that means, since they clearly got into a tussle. There should be DNA on BOTH of them. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #163
Zimmerman has a cold, brooding demeanor AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #171
this proves he wasn't even there Enrique Jun 2013 #173
LOL!!! nt kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #180
You're wrong ErikwithaK Jun 2013 #209
Interesting, let me copy/paste the relevant bits for others uppityperson Jun 2013 #210
I am reposting that as its own post as I haven't seen it before. Thanks. uppityperson Jun 2013 #212
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