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186. Probably, but it looks like the only dream left.

Sat Dec 17, 2011, 09:03 AM

Dec 2011

I put all my hope into the Occupy movement. Already it has made huge changes in the table talk around the world. I can only hope that it continues.
I think we are very close to a survival world. One in which people will do many things that they would not want to do in order to survive. It will be bad. Very very bad. Chaos. So, I first must put my hope into Occupy. Peaceful activity is certainly a first and preferred option.

Yes, I believe in unicorns on some days. (add smiley)

It's just that what is happening now in this world is what my nightmares from childhood are. Almost exactly. I have to put my hope to change the outcome somewhere. I have to participate. I have to be part of trying to make the outcome different than the one in my nightmares. I have to. Occupy is the closest thing I've seen to hope. And I hope they never stop.

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Occupy Wall Street Banned From Democratic National Convention [View all] annabanana Dec 2011 OP

That's right. cliffordu Dec 2011 #1

well crap oldhippydude Dec 2011 #12

Occupy is protest Obama's fundraising and Democrats as much as Republicans texshelters Dec 2011 #162

"it will not tolerate planned Occupy Wall Street demonstrations" Matariki Dec 2011 #2

I heard they are handing out pepper spray The Straight Story Dec 2011 #3

Whether they tolerate or not is meaningless. Cleita Dec 2011 #4

Agreed, and it should be quite interesting. Magoo48 Dec 2011 #41

Agreed Beavker Dec 2011 #152

And unfortunately that sounds like an open invitation to do just that. Dare me anyone? jwirr Dec 2011 #30

Exactly. texshelters Dec 2011 #164

That's the writer's interpretation of the situation. LoZoccolo Dec 2011 #60

City council passing resolutions is the "writer's interpretation" ? loudsue Dec 2011 #167

sad. this is delusional but then the dems think they can 'harness' roguevalley Dec 2011 #5

Not by banning them, they won't! nt Remember Me Dec 2011 #83

What does the article have to do with Dems? Sheepshank Dec 2011 #126

Exactly it was their decision & they had to know it would cause problems........... Historic NY Dec 2011 #135

Good point. AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #144

The Dems and the city of Charlotte have a DEAL. Bill Anolon Dec 2011 #158

And more than a year ago when this arena was decided by the DNC... Sheepshank Dec 2011 #163

If you think the DNC has no present leverage on Charlotte, you are wrong. Bill Anolon Dec 2011 #180

you failed to prove anything. Sheepshank Dec 2011 #181

Since when does the DNC control the City of Charlotte, NC? pnwmom Dec 2011 #139

Since the DNC picked the lucky City of Charlotte as a convention site Bill Anolon Dec 2011 #178

pure made up conjecture... Sheepshank Dec 2011 #182

This should ensure lots of demonstrators. Shades of Chicago 1968. McCamy Taylor Dec 2011 #6

kerZAKly! I sure hope cooler heads prevail on this.. . .n/t annabanana Dec 2011 #9

Good Point, McCamy. I do expect Chicago '68. The pot is bubbling...and they make it worse. KoKo Dec 2011 #13

We lost the election, too demosincebirth Dec 2011 #109

And still a good possibility if nothing is done about the voting machines... Xtraneous Dec 2011 #136

with police armed to the teeth oldhippydude Dec 2011 #19

But, that would take an intelligent approach Remember Me Dec 2011 #84

That would really work! truedelphi Dec 2011 #99

I'm always up for a challenge. mmonk Dec 2011 #7

And how did 1968 go? boxman15 Dec 2011 #8

Perhaps they would be "better off". . annabanana Dec 2011 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Dec 2011 #14

in fact oldhippydude Dec 2011 #20

Its the republicans who are tearing this country up, not the democrats. It's like getting killed by demosincebirth Dec 2011 #138

Occupy cares not republican, democratic, or other. 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #168

Your thoughts on the RW republicans and your preference to replace "They all must go."? demosincebirth Dec 2011 #183

What I personally think should happen to the republicans 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #184

I thought so, Don Quixote's " the impossible dream." demosincebirth Dec 2011 #185

Probably, but it looks like the only dream left. 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #186

DLC style dems are just as guilty as wall st enablers themadstork Dec 2011 #17

bingo oldhippydude Dec 2011 #18

Those who met violence with violence -- people like the SDS -- helped bring on the Nixon years. pnwmom Dec 2011 #115

Chicago '68 was a police riot. Warren Stupidity Dec 2011 #120

If Obama was a functional outlet there wouldn't be an OWS TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #22

Yeah, it's a shame the Democratic party refuses to learn any lessons from history no limit Dec 2011 #54

I guess you haven't noticed Remember Me Dec 2011 #85

"the movement would be better off going after the gigantic financial institutions" Occulus Dec 2011 #89

or Goldman Sachs. Chan790 Dec 2011 #159

Read my reply number 99. truedelphi Dec 2011 #101

It was LBJ's fault that Nixon won, not the protesters in Chicago. Ken Burch Dec 2011 #108

Likewise it will Obama's fault if the GOP retakes the WH. Chan790 Dec 2011 #160

Actually it went quite well if you were committed to ending the war. nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2011 #111

I agree with you. Some are trying to create the same senario as 1968 and demosincebirth Dec 2011 #137

Exactly! AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #145

hmmm... I doubt that will have the expected result. got root Dec 2011 #10

"Wall Street of the South" THAT tells you everything you need to know. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #15

Headquarters of Bank of America. kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #28

sure is... G_j Dec 2011 #37

Telling, that. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #38

Repeat of a post above Sheepshank Dec 2011 #127

All the more reason laylah Dec 2011 #42

Damn, I didn't know that! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #46

Wachovia as well Enrique Dec 2011 #50

Wachovia was bought out by Wells Fargo. glowing Dec 2011 #65

These two posts are telling. I was not happy about the location of the convention and now it seems jwirr Dec 2011 #32

Sounds like I need to make plans to be there themadstork Dec 2011 #16

Yeah, no way this could BACKFIRE on them, eh? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #25

Just issuing this order is going to backfire on them. jwirr Dec 2011 #33

yo dawg- Huey P. Long Dec 2011 #21

They are not nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #23

Someone, or a whole lot of someones Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #24

Did you expect anything less? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #26

You didn't really think the 99% were going to be invited, didya? kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #27

Having been around for a while I assume they are trying to avoid another Chicago 1968. It might jwirr Dec 2011 #29

"a representative"? boppers Dec 2011 #143

They are not elected and they should be invited guests otherwise you have just ended the system jwirr Dec 2011 #155

Good luck with that, Charlotte. EFerrari Dec 2011 #31

the ghost of mayor daley............. madrchsod Dec 2011 #34

What does anybody expect? First the party pisses off the unions -- AGAIN -- by picking a right-to- Brickbat Dec 2011 #35

good lord...read the article again. Sheepshank Dec 2011 #128

Yup, I jumped to conclusions. Brickbat Dec 2011 #129

ok...that I understand :) n/t Sheepshank Dec 2011 #156

How can a city government in the US legally do this? caseymoz Dec 2011 #36

it isnt legal themadstork Dec 2011 #39

Which gets around the question caseymoz Dec 2011 #48

4th amendment - didn't you hear TBF Dec 2011 #44

They were pulling shit like this long before that. caseymoz Dec 2011 #47

that's true - TBF Dec 2011 #49

Yes, and I'm afraid it will get that brutal. caseymoz Dec 2011 #142

Any NC Du'ers here that will let me occupy their yard? PuraVidaDreamin Dec 2011 #40

Here we go again with free speech zones.... Jello Biafra Dec 2011 #43

Well, at least they aren't trying to co-opt the movement. OneGrassRoot Dec 2011 #45

Mare Daley: Da police ain't here to create disorder. Da police is here to preserve disorder. ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2011 #51

Please explain how the Charlotte City Council is actually secretly the DNC. With links. emulatorloo Dec 2011 #52

+1,000 nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #146

When you have nothing original to offer ... GeorgeGist Dec 2011 #53

Is it too late to move the convention? That's the obvious response. saras Dec 2011 #55

The Democrats more than likely requested this be done. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2011 #56

They wanted Charlotte because NC went blue in 2008 - first time since Carter slay Dec 2011 #61

Ba_Lon_EY Sheepshank Dec 2011 #130

The point is, why did the Dems choose to hold the Convention there? There have been objections sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #140

I'm sure they pulled the name out of a hat Sheepshank Dec 2011 #157

Well, I didn't say they chose it because of OWS. I said, they now need to make a statement sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #172

Well, that poses the question "Which side are you on?" Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #57

yep. (n/t) bread_and_roses Dec 2011 #68

So how many vendors selling merchandise will this effect? glowing Dec 2011 #58

I plan to go to Charlotte and protest with Occupy regardless slay Dec 2011 #59

And I thank you now for your service to this country. Occupy. -eom Huey P. Long Dec 2011 #64

the schism is approaching librechik Dec 2011 #62

I think you need to re-read the OP...nothing to do with the DNC Sheepshank Dec 2011 #131

thx, got that straight, finally! librechik Dec 2011 #176

Free speech zones. Remind me, where have we seen those before? Nt xchrom Dec 2011 #63

Outside of women's health clinics.. Fumesucker Dec 2011 #73

And anywhere George W. Bush went - anywhere plus a buffer of one or two miles, that is. kenny blankenship Dec 2011 #75

I was just pointing out where free speech zones started. Fumesucker Dec 2011 #77

It was first used against the fundies at abortion clinics mwrguy Dec 2011 #91

rec mdmc Dec 2011 #66

OWS has a way of showing up where they aren't invited Jack Rabbit Dec 2011 #67

If they thought the teabaggers caused political change... 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #69

If 1968 comes to mind one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #70

Occupy DNC deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #71

+1 (nt) rbnyc Dec 2011 #110

Not smart. Rex Dec 2011 #72

Stupid Stupid Stupid LiberalLovinLug Dec 2011 #74

"0. Occupy Wall Street Banned From Democratic National Convention" greiner3 Dec 2011 #76

The mock and undermine crowd liking this one Kingofalldems Dec 2011 #78

Every Democratic Convention in recent history has restricted protesters frazzled Dec 2011 #79

So, inconvenient protest is inconvenient. Occulus Dec 2011 #90

I'd suggest ... frazzled Dec 2011 #92

It was Blaine the mono, from King's "The Dark Tower III: The Wastelands"; the context is even apt Occulus Dec 2011 #93

One thing that people who did not live during the Great Depression do not understand - truedelphi Dec 2011 #106

Consider THIS post rec'd! Those encampments were not just for show. annabanana Dec 2011 #116

I do see exactly that in the consitution. Warren Stupidity Dec 2011 #124

So then you agree that ... frazzled Dec 2011 #133

Where in the 1st Amendment is there is a time limit on when Citizens can exercise their right to sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #141

You can't exercise it in your sleep frazzled Dec 2011 #151

Did you think that everyone in an occupation camp was sleeping at the same time? sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #171

Well, even so.... AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #147

Same old faces, same outcomes: Daley, Sr., and Daley, Jr. heckling at the Democratic Convention '68 leveymg Dec 2011 #80

Thank you for those photos. Yet as someone who truedelphi Dec 2011 #103

Man, FUCK the Daleys. Both of 'em. AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #148

What about the RNC? rbixby Dec 2011 #81

why not both? FirstLight Dec 2011 #82

Thank you fo rthat piece of common sense. truedelphi Dec 2011 #105

1968 redux jaysunb Dec 2011 #86

Wow. Talk about buying trouble! n/t TygrBright Dec 2011 #87

I have some honest questions about this ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #88

Very good points, JoePhilly. Thank you! n/t truedelphi Dec 2011 #107

Optimism may prove to be quite helpful next year, but...... AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #149

Which "They"? JoePhilly Dec 2011 #174

banning "noxious substances," Viva Dec 2011 #94

A Suggestion unionworks Dec 2011 #95

nice FirstLight Dec 2011 #97

The playing field unionworks Dec 2011 #100

Welcome to the revolution unionworks Dec 2011 #119

Genius! bluedigger Dec 2011 #96

Mark My Words unionworks Dec 2011 #98

Yup. Chicago 1968. Bonobo Dec 2011 #102

You DO realize that they're doing Occupy a favor, don't you? MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #104

.... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #112

Very good point HeyHeymymy Dec 2011 #113

Charlotte, NC made the decision -- not the DNC. n/t pnwmom Dec 2011 #114

What a convienient cop out unionworks Dec 2011 #118

I think that point would defeat the point of this thread, Mom Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #121

series? that is your argument? Warren Stupidity Dec 2011 #122

the people have rights. barbtries Dec 2011 #117

Another example of why the convention shouldn't be in N Carolina. baldguy Dec 2011 #123

This was genned up by the Charlotte Chamber of Commerce to stimulate motel/hotel bertman Dec 2011 #125

If so, then I have a big FUCK YOU for the Charlotte C of C. AverageJoe90 Dec 2011 #150

I think they should We are Devo Dec 2011 #132

Standing room only at the next public meeting in Council chambers! MrMickeysMom Dec 2011 #134

I have seen one of the organizers from Charlotte on TV. He was very impressive and sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #173

Great! I'd love someone to upload the stream! eom MrMickeysMom Dec 2011 #179

1968 and today have something in common. SavWriter Dec 2011 #153

Call Them and tell them how you feel! fredamae Dec 2011 #154

They are poking the hornets' nest texshelters Dec 2011 #161

Move the Convention texshelters Dec 2011 #165

Why not "Occupy" a field with Tents? fredamae Dec 2011 #166

Of course HarryPowell Dec 2011 #169

The article says it's the city's doing JNelson6563 Dec 2011 #170

Amendment 1 aggiesal Dec 2011 #175

Because protesting these Conventions has done so much good to date. snark WhatsNext Dec 2011 #177