Do you consider yourself a Democrat first or an American first?

[Moonwalk]

24. Americans who saw themselves as Americans owned slaves...

..and allowed slavery to continue, taking away the rights of Americans (born here) without a second thought. They took away the rights of Native Americans as well, without a second thought. Would you say that George Washington, et al were not Americans? Or didn't think of themselves first and foremost as Americans?

You're creating not only a false dichotomy, but you're also working from a false premise. We all have to AGREE that we're giving up our 4th Amendment rights if don't object to what NSA is doing FIRST. Then we all have to AGREE that no one who says they're an American first would give up the 4th Amendment--hard to prove given how many Americans, in the past, were willing to deny those rights to Americans of color, native Americans or women.

Once we all agree to on those two, THEN you can say that a true American wouldn't do this.

But you haven't proved those two true as yet, so your thesis is based on a false premise. Which means you can't win the argument by bullying us into saying "we're Americans" and then go "gotcha! you have to agree with me on NSA!"

Sorry your trap didn't work. It was full of holes and waaaay obvious.