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In reply to the discussion: Do you consider yourself a Democrat first or an American first? [View all]mzteris
(16,232 posts)imo . . . these days, anyways. MOST - thought not ALL - Republicans don't seem very "American" to me anymore. (And I say that with a son-in-law who is a Republican. Socially very liberal (my daughter's father is gay and her brother is African American), - he's fiscally Republican. But a very nice guy. Very very honest and loyal to my daughter, so I deal with the Republican issue. He and my daughter DO NOT talk politics. Ever. They have a deal, he doesn't watch Fox when she's there, and she doesn't watch CNN or MSNBC. lol) I don't like his politics, but i'd trust him with my life. Hell, I trust him with my daughter!
and my soon to be first granddaughter! double
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Jane Fonda. When she was Barbarella. Hanoi Jane. Ted Turner's wife. Or her workout video? I assume you mean Hanoi Jane.
At the time I was a teen under the influence of "Southern Democrats" - states righters who voted for Dem governors and Republican Presidents. I was very anti-war. But I was a "if you're in a freaking war then get it over with as soon as possible however you can" mindset at the time. I hated her back then. I understand the nuance - the reason - now. Do I agree? To be honest, I don't remember all of the details of the who the what the where the why. Putting our soldiers in harms way? Probably not cool if that was the case, I don't know. Then again, I'm pretty anti-military myself these days. I mean, I respect some aspect of the military, but to sign up to go kill people? Not so much. (Spoken as the daughter and niece of WWII marines (WWII was different, imo), an ex-navy-wife (& ex-navy daughterinlaw), and an ex-marine wife. My brother retired as a full Colonel from the Air Force and served at the Pentagon. My cousin died in Nam. His brothers served in Germany and Korea respectively. So - uh - yeah, it's not like I don't know what military life is or is for. )
I'm even MORE anti-war now. Anti death penalty. Anti-murder. But . . . I'm still of the opinion - no matter how hard I try to be a true pacifist - if someone is looking to harm my kids, they're fair f'ing game. I will take you down, out, whatever i have to do. (so sue me. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it. I'm a mom first. Everything else comes after.)