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122. Obviously I take it seriously

Reply to Threedifferentones (Reply #121)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:14 AM

Jun 2013

but what it does not say is that all men are batterers. But some members of this site love nothing more to try to censure any discussion of violence against women. You may believe what you like about guns, but the fact is it is far more likely to cause you harm than help you. Your "common sense" is not born out by reality. That smaller person is more likely to have that gun taken away and used against her. And in the vast majority of cases, the assailant is someone in her own home.

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Who kills women with guns? [View all] BainsBane Jun 2013 OP

According to your graphic, it's men. flvegan Jun 2013 #1

Stupid OPs? Violence against women is stupid? BainsBane Jun 2013 #2

Is that what you took from that response? flvegan Jun 2013 #4

Yes, I did BainsBane Jun 2013 #6

So you took it personally, then? flvegan Jun 2013 #7

When someone calls me a fool, I tend to do that BainsBane Jun 2013 #9

So rather than giving clarity to your OP flvegan Jun 2013 #18

I corrected the typo BainsBane Jun 2013 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Jun 2013 #9

My definition of a fool is not someone who makes a typo BainsBane Jun 2013 #3

I hate Guns and The Men that use them on women amuse bouche Jun 2013 #132

i think there has been too much attention given to the "scary strange man in the streets" JI7 Jun 2013 #5

Absolutely, in fact having a gun in the home makes a woman BainsBane Jun 2013 #8

Am confused. Is it men or guns causing this? The Straight Story Jun 2013 #13

Amazingly, a gun is more lethal than a fist BainsBane Jun 2013 #14

And amazling 99% of people who own them don't harm others with them The Straight Story Jun 2013 #15

So all those murders don't count? BainsBane Jun 2013 #16

Nice try - yes, they 'count' tell me how you would prevent them The Straight Story Jun 2013 #17

universal background checks BainsBane Jun 2013 #19

Prevent how? beevul Jun 2013 #32

Now you only care about mass shootings BainsBane Jun 2013 #43

Ahh, a pseudo mind reader. beevul Jun 2013 #45

Then why argue against background checks here? BainsBane Jun 2013 #61

There you go again, attributing something to someone falsely. beevul Jun 2013 #72

The Democratic Party platform does not support registration. NutmegYankee Jun 2013 #34

LOL BainsBane Jun 2013 #42

You only laugh because you yourself wouldn't be subject to the invasion of privacy NutmegYankee Jun 2013 #49

As I mentioned down thread mercuryblues Jun 2013 #77

75.6% of statustics are made up on the spot Scootaloo Jun 2013 #52

Well, I invite you to research them for yourself The Straight Story Jun 2013 #56

Yup. I suggest you utilize these sources! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #58

Well, sample math for you The Straight Story Jun 2013 #60

Most people who own cars never kill anyone with them either. But we still register them and Squinch Jun 2013 #76

This seems more of an attack on men than guns davidn3600 Jun 2013 #20

Documenting violence is an attack on men? BainsBane Jun 2013 #21

If this saves even one life,...it's worth it. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #22

Self service nonsense can't save anyone. Nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #103

Stats can. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #107

A gun in the home is a danger to everyone. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #23

awesome graphic BainsBane Jun 2013 #25

Please do. Thanks. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #27

what a nice info-graphic. danial3262 Jun 2013 #33

This is a waste of time LittleBlue Jun 2013 #26

No, America is not. Just our Republican legislators. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #28

Go look at the polls after Newtown LittleBlue Jun 2013 #29

The polls show the American people want reasonable gun control. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #30

I expect some reasonable legislation to be forthcoming over the next few years. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #37

If you can't be bothered to do anything BainsBane Jun 2013 #31

If I call my congress people... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #41

stand up for the rights of gun owners BainsBane Jun 2013 #47

Did you even take the time to read my post? NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #50

My wife loves here CC 642 ileus Jun 2013 #35

She is at far greater risk of being killed because of having a gun in the house BainsBane Jun 2013 #36

Your statistics don't show that. NutmegYankee Jun 2013 #51

Then my Loving Wife should be dead, after living in the same house that oneshooter Jun 2013 #71

Chicken vs Egg One_Life_To_Give Jun 2013 #38

The partner is violent. The gun makes him all the more lethal. BainsBane Jun 2013 #44

Gun-fuckers. Iggo Jun 2013 #39

If they were serious about it mercuryblues Jun 2013 #40

If they valued women's lives more than guns BainsBane Jun 2013 #46

rec KG Jun 2013 #48

Sadly, no surprises in the responses Scootaloo Jun 2013 #53

"you poor oppressed things" BainsBane Jun 2013 #54

See? See? Oppression at work! Scootaloo Jun 2013 #55

LOL BainsBane Jun 2013 #59

The most dangerous place for women is their own home. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2013 #57

Purely out of curiosity, I looked by murder statistics by race and gender Nevernose Jun 2013 #62

Absolutely BainsBane Jun 2013 #63

Another interesting statistic chervilant Jun 2013 #79

Yes, I have heard that domestic calls are often the most dangerous BainsBane Jun 2013 #82

Now look a little deeper at those statistics. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #64

I think those are still the minority Nevernose Jun 2013 #68

Most murder victims have criminal record. Check out this: GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #69

While technically true, the statisic is grossly misleading. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #65

yeah, well if a woman is killed by her partner BainsBane Jun 2013 #66

There are predictors. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #67

the fact that I have been just lectured about how irrational I am BainsBane Jun 2013 #74

You have already decided to believe that, no matter what studies are posted. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #75

Relationship violence is so prevalent, chervilant Jun 2013 #80

Relationship violence is a global problem. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #81

Take a look at this U.S. Gov't Study. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #70

kick! hedgehog Jun 2013 #73

Fastest growing segment of gun-owning community? Women Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #78

Does the concept of statistics mean anything to you? BainsBane Jun 2013 #84

As in 5% of the women I encounter under 35 galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #95

I agree BainsBane Jun 2013 #99

Lighten up Francis ;) nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #101

Pushing 20% of gun owners. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #118

Of course, the trick is not to hook up with violent men. My gun has saved me... Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #83

It's very clear that a gun in the home makes a woman far more vulnerable to murder BainsBane Jun 2013 #85

I don't think the evidence is clear at all. Whether a gun is used or not, it is clear Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #86

1/3 of women are battered or raped by their partners BainsBane Jun 2013 #96

Yup, I'm the greatest threat to my wife's safety. EvilAL Jun 2013 #87

Did you think your name was on that chart? BainsBane Jun 2013 #88

Is any other man's name on it? EvilAL Jun 2013 #89

No, but you appear to have taken it personally BainsBane Jun 2013 #90

Maybe it was the EvilAL Jun 2013 #92

What does that have to do with you? BainsBane Jun 2013 #93

What does it have to do with YOU? EvilAL Jun 2013 #94

I care about gun violence and violence against women BainsBane Jun 2013 #97

The wording of the 'information' EvilAL Jun 2013 #108

No one said you were BainsBane Jun 2013 #109

No, it's not about me, it's about the man EvilAL Jun 2013 #110

According to the FBI Crime Victimization Survey EvilAL Jun 2013 #111

Did you see the WHO report this week? BainsBane Jun 2013 #112

Well we can only go on the ones that do get reported, EvilAL Jun 2013 #113

Bullshit BainsBane Jun 2013 #114

Oh well, EvilAL Jun 2013 #115

Statistically, chervilant Jun 2013 #119

All I said was EvilAL Jun 2013 #123

Bullshit. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #131

Again, I was referring to the graphic EvilAL Jun 2013 #136

+1! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #130

You apply the lessons personally, but they should not take them that way? Threedifferentones Jun 2013 #121

Obviously I take it seriously BainsBane Jun 2013 #122

Statistically, you are. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #127

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #91

That's your response to violence against women? BainsBane Jun 2013 #98

It's my response to your OP. rrneck Jun 2013 #100

Sick burn!!! Nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #102

remdi95 BainsBane Jun 2013 #106

i think you are taking this stuff way to seriously. nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #116

I most certainly do BainsBane Jun 2013 #117

And, I wonder if your posts chervilant Jun 2013 #120

I minimize nothing. galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #124

Ignoring the different nature of violence against women BainsBane Jun 2013 #125

just complete your bigotry circle already and get to the racial spreads of violence in America... galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #138

As usual BainsBane Jun 2013 #143

Bigotry like saying the behavior of 95% of women is "disgusting"? BainsBane Jun 2013 #145

or as arbitrary as the sex partners you've "had" BainsBane Jun 2013 #149

While I choose not to use gender specific terminology, chervilant Jun 2013 #133

This one doesn't believe patriarchy exists BainsBane Jun 2013 #144

oic... chervilant Jun 2013 #158

I have every right to speak about violence against women BainsBane Jun 2013 #104

What kind of person gets outraged over basic informaton BainsBane Jun 2013 #105

except it is NOT basic information hfojvt Jun 2013 #140

Offensive? BainsBane Jun 2013 #142

and that's another bogys statistic hfojvt Jun 2013 #147

It most certainly is not bogus BainsBane Jun 2013 #150

should I infer something hfojvt Jun 2013 #153

Excellent post. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #126

Amazing how the concept of basic statistics escapes many BainsBane Jun 2013 #128

That's because yer stooopid. Like all DUmmies. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #129

One might think "...women with guns" would be difficult to harm. bike man Jun 2013 #134

Owning a gun increases one's chance of being killed BainsBane Jun 2013 #135

See my post #71. oneshooter Jun 2013 #137

the truth there isn't even a half truth hfojvt Jun 2013 #139

This is homicides BainsBane Jun 2013 #141

and that means, for a vast majority of women hfojvt Jun 2013 #146

of the women not in danger of physical violence or death BainsBane Jun 2013 #148

it probably needs to be far greater than 51% hfojvt Jun 2013 #151

I see BainsBane Jun 2013 #152

I wonder how many of the Jenoch Jun 2013 #154

Why don't you find out and tell us BainsBane Jun 2013 #155

I don't know if data is kept to find out. Jenoch Jun 2013 #156

You think that BainsBane Jun 2013 #157