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In reply to the discussion: People who would attack the messenger to supress what they have to say... [View all]Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)80. Here's PRISM
Firstly, the black and white way this thing is debated is seriously aggravating. On balance, whether what Snowden did was more good than evil is something we'll have to wait a while to see. He did unveil the fact that the NSA has continued to spy on domestic activities with warrants that are a joke. But the rest of what he did was not only wrong, it endangers future whistleblowers who want to reveal stuff like this, by making it easy to tag them as traitors.
Because the rest of what he did is traitorous.
Now, on to PRISM.
It took me, I am not lying, 15 seconds to find this using Google.
Computer Evidence Specialists (CES) Launches PRISM, a Social Media Investigative and Research Tool
ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Computer Evidence Specialists (CES), a firm specializing in investigations, intelligence and analytics, has launched PRISM, a browser-based social media aggregation tool designed to allow users to search, identify, monitor and archive information publicly available on the most popular social media sites. PRISM was created by a team comprised of former FBI executives, lawyers, and investigative analysts. With PRISM, users can use a single tool to search across multiple social media sites, blogs, and news sites to capture information. PRISM provides users with the ability to make sense of the vast amount of information available on social media.
With the rise of social media, more and more individuals and organizations are posting publicly available content. Within that content lies pertinent information which is useful to organizations. Before PRISM, users had to manually comb through multiple social media sites to try and synthesize the available data for information relevant to their needs. PRISM offers a single place to pull together all available data, filter out the noise, and make sense of the avalanche of information out there. To aid users, PRISM features the ability to map posts, compare digital footprints, monitor profiles, and to identify and monitor organizations. Users can export all data, including meta-data, for use with knowledge visualization analytical tools. PRISM is built upon an extremely versatile platform which can be accessed from anywhere with an Internet connection. PRISM allows any organization to efficiently manage the collection and analysis of publicly available information on persons, organizations and events.
About CES
CES is a professional firm, founded by Carl Florez, a former FBI executive, to provide investigative, intelligence, and analytical services to government agencies, private companies, and law firms. CES has consistently provided new and innovative tools and techniques to meet the needs of their clients.
With the rise of social media, more and more individuals and organizations are posting publicly available content. Within that content lies pertinent information which is useful to organizations. Before PRISM, users had to manually comb through multiple social media sites to try and synthesize the available data for information relevant to their needs. PRISM offers a single place to pull together all available data, filter out the noise, and make sense of the avalanche of information out there. To aid users, PRISM features the ability to map posts, compare digital footprints, monitor profiles, and to identify and monitor organizations. Users can export all data, including meta-data, for use with knowledge visualization analytical tools. PRISM is built upon an extremely versatile platform which can be accessed from anywhere with an Internet connection. PRISM allows any organization to efficiently manage the collection and analysis of publicly available information on persons, organizations and events.
About CES
CES is a professional firm, founded by Carl Florez, a former FBI executive, to provide investigative, intelligence, and analytical services to government agencies, private companies, and law firms. CES has consistently provided new and innovative tools and techniques to meet the needs of their clients.
So much for that big revelation. It would have taken Greenwald literally seconds to figure out someone was blowing smoke up his rear end.
Now, the one thing he did right was to launch this whole debate about the NSA collecting our metadata. That is in fact dangerous.
But he went well beyond that. He is offering to give up every CIA agent around the world, and what their mission is. That info may (no way of knowing, and no one is going to volunteer that this has happened) already be in the hands of both the Chinese and the Russians.
Why would he do this?
No reason related to these NSA revelations re domestic surveillance.
But what about the rest of the world, someone says plaintively?
The NSA, or whomever from the USG, hacking into systems around the world is just a cyber version of spying. That's all. The rest of the world should expect that if this method is available for spying, it will be used. You can be sure our Defense Dept assumes this and acts accordingly.
Snowden revealing NSA domestic surveillance with ridiculously written warrants makes him a whistleblower.
Snowden revealing our spying, down to where agents are and what their missions are, makes him a traitor, and dangerous to every whistleblower who comes after him.
Greenwald believing what Snowden told him re PRISM makes him a sucker, by the way. Just for the record.
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People who would attack the messenger to supress what they have to say... [View all]
TheMadMonk
Jun 2013
OP
Yeah, like when Greenwald 'reported' the NSA was stealing info directly from private servers
railsback
Jun 2013
#2
I don't think anything would satisfy you unless you were personally directing the NSA.
randome
Jun 2013
#24
Saying you can't trust any government agency is standard libertarian propaganda
arely staircase
Jun 2013
#50
Well, who should we believe, the Corporations who have been caught lying so many times before
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#21
Apparently for you it does. Do you have some proof of anything you 'believe' or is it just
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#55
If the point of contention is the message, it's still and attack on the messenger.
TheMadMonk
Jun 2013
#4
When the messenger provides documentation the messenger no longer matters. And ONLY those
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#22
Apparently he's still there, lugging around his computers, talking to . . . whoever.
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#26
So he DID release 'new' information? We were being told here that it was all 'old news'. I get
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#59
Plame's statement concerned internal surveillance only, but the issue I'm talking about here
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#70
Got a link to that? And I was just told again in another thread that is 'all old news'. People need
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#71
If Fox News says it is Thursday then some would argue that today can't possibly be Thursday.
KurtNYC
Jun 2013
#8
Lol, they always forget about the documents. I guess they haven't bothered to research exactly
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#36
If the messenger producers documents, which is the case here, it doesn't matter of the
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#37
In the case here, Snowdens documents say one thing and his allegations say another.
baldguy
Jun 2013
#54
Try to focus. It doesn't matter what HE says, or you believe, or anything else. It matters only what
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#57
The 'victim' is not the OP. He can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he is talking about the
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#38
Who is 'Eddie'? But let's talk about that 'data base' which we now have more information about
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#58
Yeah, if it conforms to our prejudices. You know, like what Faux tells their audience, or what
UTUSN
Jun 2013
#90
Character assassination is a huge red flag. The people that participate in it are fucking scum.
backscatter712
Jun 2013
#66
A few things. If he has 'every agent and their missions' in his hands, the real traitor is he
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#97
What proof has Snowden offered to support his claim that from he could wiretap anyone...
Galraedia
Jun 2013
#84