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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts) Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:20 PM Jun 2013

Open Letter to Snowden/Greenwald demonizers. Please make up your mind. Which is it? [View all]

Would you please make up your mind which of your two claims
is true, and which isn't; because they can't BOTH be true.

1) Oh, not this again. There's absolutely "nothing new" here, it's just
Greenwald getting his panties in a wad about nothing again.

OR

2) Snowden is a traitor to his country for exposing uber-important classified
information that he should not have had access to in the first place. This is
causing huge repercussions "in the field" for intelligence agencies, etc. etc.

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Open Letter to Snowden/Greenwald demonizers. Please make up your mind. Which is it? [View all] 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 OP

You kids don't have enough flame threads to play in? eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #1

They're getting scared their position Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #5

The more we learn, the more we realize that not prosecuting the war criminals was an historical sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #61

The process is not new, the information very well might be. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #2

Now they will move n to a four star general nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3

And our resident champion of all that is good and holy... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #60

Mostly #1, though telling China which of their computers we've hacked goes into #2 territory Recursion Jun 2013 #4

It's A Partisan Vs. Patriot Thing... WillyT Jun 2013 #6

YOU. DO. NOT. GET. IT! baldguy Jun 2013 #7

This has nothing to do with Ron Red-herring-of-the-week Paul. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #16

Imagine what a DU member who is a cop, military, SS, CIA, FBI, NSA plant would be doing and saying. L0oniX Jun 2013 #25

Nice strawman, looks freshly cut Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #30

A lot is new marions ghost Jun 2013 #17

And now Russia and China have all of it. baldguy Jun 2013 #19

I am less worried about Russia and China marions ghost Jun 2013 #21

For you. baldguy Jun 2013 #22

I don't get into the Libertarian vs Liberal thing marions ghost Jun 2013 #29

"I don't get into the Libertarian vs Liberal thing" baldguy Jun 2013 #32

Thank you for your reply marions ghost Jun 2013 #45

That first statement is utterly appalling treestar Jun 2013 #28

What does it do for your sense of logic? randome Jun 2013 #34

truth always hurts marions ghost Jun 2013 #39

No, it is not the truth treestar Jun 2013 #67

OK stick with that & I'll stick with marions ghost Jun 2013 #71

Nicely put. "We're supposed to be the 'good guys', so we should act like it." nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #51

Thanks & thanks for your OP marions ghost Jun 2013 #55

You'll know the "terrorists" have won 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #56

Don't hold back, friend. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #64

I don't see any nazis here marions ghost Jun 2013 #69

That is fucking despicable. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #63

We're on the same side, I'm sure marions ghost Jun 2013 #70

Does the ACLU "NOT. GET. IT RAWWWR!" either? DirkGently Jun 2013 #24

The OP was about Snowden & Greenwald. Is the ACLU asking for a pardon for Snowden? baldguy Jun 2013 #31

Oh, so the issue IS legitimate? I thought it was all "2006?" DirkGently Jun 2013 #38

As long as you don't sit out the midterms Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #33

Is that what all this despicable denial is about? The FUCKING MIDTERMS? DirkGently Jun 2013 #42

That's my US Senator Wyden. woot! 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #53

Thank you ACLU: marions ghost Jun 2013 #54

Perhaps I am oversimplifying the situation. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #49

#2. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #8

He did not expose the existence... gcomeau Jun 2013 #9

do you understand? frylock Jun 2013 #12

If you prefer gcomeau Jun 2013 #14

you continue to use words like "treason," "traitor," and "traitorous" frylock Jun 2013 #15

No, I didn't. Try reading it again. gcomeau Jun 2013 #20

They see what they want to see; read what they want to read. baldguy Jun 2013 #37

they can come up some snarky non-sequitur.. frylock Jun 2013 #41

You have nothing to add & nothing to say. Thank you for proving my point. baldguy Jun 2013 #43

You have nothing to add & nothing to say. Thank you for proving my point. frylock Jun 2013 #44

Well I was just stating a fact. Sorry if facts upset you. lob1 Jun 2013 #50

A perfect analogy. randome Jun 2013 #18

No one can commit treason unless we're in a war declared by congress. lob1 Jun 2013 #35

Sigh... gcomeau Jun 2013 #48

Show. Me. The. Evidence. randome Jun 2013 #10

it is "and" not "or" arely staircase Jun 2013 #11

Give them a break. At some point they'll tighten up the talking points and they'll all be on the Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #13

Nice one !! I'm totally stealing it. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #58

Even better from VastLeft Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #23

Chinese are smiling at you "useful idiots" Kolesar Jun 2013 #47

Hahaha! Really? I don't need a "urban dictionary" definition. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #52

+1 Quantess Jun 2013 #65

Snowden is a fucking traitor, Greenwald works for the Guardian still_one Jun 2013 #26

I dont' see the stark inconsistency of those two positions treestar Jun 2013 #27

There's nothing incongruous to you about saying 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #57

non responsive treestar Jun 2013 #68

So says the pot to the kettle. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #72

Demonizer's a pretty good term, though I prefer the term scumbag. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #36

Show us the evidence that supports Snowden's claims. randome Jun 2013 #40

It's not character assasination - it's character definition. baldguy Jun 2013 #46

Thank you bobduca Jun 2013 #59

Yes. These are the two options: Quantess Jun 2013 #62

Two issues are being mixed up creeksneakers2 Jun 2013 #66