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(5,331 posts) Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:58 PM Jun 2013

What's with all the libertarians on DU? [View all]

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Seriously, it's like a whole shit-load of Paulbots just invaded DU. I haven't seen this much anti-government paranoia since far-right loonytarian Alex Jones started accusing the U.S. government of using weather weapons to create tornadoes.

Update: This thread is not meant to be an attack on people who are against government surveillance and for protecting civil liberties. It's an observation that some people are taking their anti-government paranoia to libertarian levels of stupidity. To give you an example: it's like listening to paranoid pro-gun nuts talking about "the gubmint iz comin with dem black helicopters to take yer gunz". Nobody in their right mind wants to listen to that shit. Tone it down a notch.

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What's with all the libertarians on DU? [View all] Galraedia Jun 2013 OP

Are you whining? NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #1

No, libertarians. Galraedia Jun 2013 #6

Name names, list the usernames. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #11

We can't. Snowden's got all the lists. pnwmom Jun 2013 #13

. flamingdem Jun 2013 #23

Launch the drones! NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #24

DUzy alittlelark Jun 2013 #30

LOL graham4anything Jun 2013 #153

want to call me out? go ahead call me a libertarian. do it. cali Jun 2013 #177

I don't believe in name-calling here. pnwmom Jun 2013 #218

+1! Those accusing DUers of being Paulbots need to name names and provide evidence. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #152

Democratic thought does not always include "blind trust" newthinking Jun 2013 #103

no whining about DU. quinnox Jun 2013 #2

This will be locked as Whining. Whisp Jun 2013 #3

Young people do not take kindly to infringements on privacy and violations of civil liberties... ram2008 Jun 2013 #4

Speak for yourself. Not all "young people" think as you do. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #7

Hence the usage of the word "most" ram2008 Jun 2013 #15

No, President Obama approval rating is not declining.. that's just more bullshit.. Cha Jun 2013 #29

Thanks for that Cha. They can't stand it. The prez is recovering, and they're bitter about it. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #40

Yeah, when all else fails.. whine about PBO's "declining aprroval ratings" they just Cha Jun 2013 #43

Even the netroots (real activists) dismissed most of the shit we're reading on the DU. It's the.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #51

Guess it takes a real liberal to defend rampant domestic spying and shady corporatism? ram2008 Jun 2013 #62

Have fun at Occupy! Oh wait.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #79

When they bring in the 'netroots' a Third Way invention to control Liberals, you know where they are sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #159

But here's the thing -- THERE IS NO CLASH Number23 Jun 2013 #182

Awesome, thank you!! freshwest Jun 2013 #192

+1 graham4anything Jun 2013 #217

A lot of them just can't help it, Cha Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #95

Sure I believe ya... ram2008 Jun 2013 #53

No, what you're doing is outing yourself as an incompetent Cha Jun 2013 #64

Coming from the person who has refused to answer any questions without attacking the messenger. ram2008 Jun 2013 #71

Sorry, most young people are smarter than "Ron Paul is dreamy" assholes. Cha Jun 2013 #105

Again you are incapable of having a rational conversation without name calling. Grow up. ram2008 Jun 2013 #107

Can you describe "huge dropoff"? He's back at 50% in Gallup's 3 day rolling average. He's had dips Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #33

Gallup was so accurate in the election right? LOL. Here: ram2008 Jun 2013 #48

CNN? No other poll show that steep decline, and it was disputed by polling experts. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #75

The trend is still downward on both aggregations ram2008 Jun 2013 #82

Don't hurt yourself there! Tough work defending your initial "disinformation". I get it. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #93

There was no initial disinformation ram2008 Jun 2013 #100

Alrighty then. You take care! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #104

Let's see - I'm 65 GoneOffShore Jun 2013 #117

nonsense. Young people are the ones that relinquish their privacy willingly cali Jun 2013 #189

They are choosing what they want to share. ram2008 Jun 2013 #199

that just makes me laugh. cali Jun 2013 #208

Just so you know... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #215

It's a shame there's none of that going on here. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #206

"Obama's Job Approval Easily Outpaces U.S. Satisfaction" Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #38

Ignorant Cheap Pot Shot Proof! Cha Jun 2013 #45

What percentage of those use tweeter, facebook, put their life stories and faces out on youtube? freshwest Jun 2013 #203

Hey, some of us are well pretty much your elders nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #20

You're right, I don't understand libertaranism... Galraedia Jun 2013 #34

when you throw populist Civil libertarians nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #49

Alan Grayson is not a libertarian. Galraedia Jun 2013 #81

Yes he is dear, a CIVIL Libertarian nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #84

^^^^^^ OMG what do you have against Ron Wyden? limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #110

Ron Wyden is nothing more than a Republican posing as a Democrat. Galraedia Jun 2013 #122

you just showed you know ZERO about Ron Wyden quinnox Jun 2013 #125

My tolerance is growing thin for those who post very strong opinions on a factless basis think Jun 2013 #131

WTF? think Jun 2013 #128

GUFFAWS will break nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #150

Wait a sec... is this whole thread sarcasm? It might actually make sense that way. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #157

Clueless - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #209

Respectfully, I would argue you don't understand traditional democratic values newthinking Jun 2013 #127

Civil Liberty has always been part of liberal / Progressive values newthinking Jun 2013 #115

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #116

IBTL. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #5

Injustice By The Law? Galraedia Jun 2013 #8

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #10

Maybe their websites are down. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #9

Found this on the Paulbot's website: Galraedia Jun 2013 #16

LOL Scurrilous Jun 2013 #18

But if you point out a poster is a Paulbot, your post gets locked. baldguy Jun 2013 #25

^^ yep flamingdem Jun 2013 #26

Nice, we have people doing Paul's work NightWatcher Jun 2013 #27

And they're welcomed with open arms. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #37

Yes, they are. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #101

You Better Believe It! nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #179

And meanwhile actual Democrats leave in disgust by the droves, including lots of black posters Number23 Jun 2013 #198

[SECRET VIDEO FOOTAGE!] Trucker CONFIRMS underground cites for the elite! Kolesar Jun 2013 #154

Are they planning on going underground? Galraedia Jun 2013 #156

It's good to be an elitist! Kolesar Jun 2013 #161

And here I thought the elite preferred penthouses. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #170

I'm shocked!1 SHOCKED, I tells ya!1one Number23 Jun 2013 #191

HA, an observation is now whining Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #12

Maybe 'cause their leader's in Russia now? Cha Jun 2013 #14

More like their centerfold. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #21

Got it. Cha Jun 2013 #32

+1 he's Haut for a Paultbot flamingdem Jun 2013 #87

I asked a young libertarian recently how he felt about Paul's recent comments pnwmom Jun 2013 #17

It's become acceptable to accuse a sitting Democratic President of being a murderous fascist. baldguy Jun 2013 #19

Which is too damn bad for those Cha Jun 2013 #36

Did you have a problem accusing Bush? whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #147

Are you under the impression that Obama and Bush have anything in common? baldguy Jun 2013 #155

So your pants wetting over disrespecting sitting presidents whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #168

Do you drool at the chance to spread lies about Obama & carry water for the GOP? baldguy Jun 2013 #180

What lies? whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #184

The lies are pretty much anything Snowden has said. baldguy Jun 2013 #196

Well that's bullshit whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #204

Pretty much everything you've posted is echoed at that link. baldguy Jun 2013 #220

A few of the normal DU folks who are staunch free speech supporters and many okaawhatever Jun 2013 #22

Epic fail reframe. anti-government = paulbot L0oniX Jun 2013 #28

Epic fail. Absurd amount of over the top anti-government paranoia + stupidity = Paulbot Galraedia Jun 2013 #162

I'm sure the police, military, NSA, CIA, FBI, the SS and ...Agent Mike would agree. L0oniX Jun 2013 #167

Sneaker trolls from Ayn Rand "book" clubs. Eom elfin Jun 2013 #31

Name names or kindly whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #35

This liberty-licious Ron Paul troll got 147 recs on one of several threads ucrdem Jun 2013 #41

147 and counting: ucrdem Jun 2013 #68

You say "liberty-licious" like it's a bad thing burnodo Jun 2013 #102

Libertarianism is a very bad thing, yes ucrdem Jun 2013 #108

I asked about liberty, not libertarianism burnodo Jun 2013 #111

The OP asks about libertarianism. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #120

shallow evasion burnodo Jun 2013 #146

What, you don't like librarians? Or Librans? Or libidinous lipids? Answer! Quit ducking my Squinch Jun 2013 #140

For being a "Conspiracy crap, obama hater, troll." by Skinner! HA! Cha Jun 2013 #114

That one deserves a medal. ucrdem Jun 2013 #142

Oh, that asshole got his pizza delivered! Great news! Thanks, ucr. Cha Jun 2013 #129

Identical thread posted at Infowars and Ron Paul Liberty Forum ucrdem Jun 2013 #47

You've been riding that corpse for days whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #57

I answered your question. You're welcome. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #61

As I suspected whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #78

Links to identical Infowars and Ron Paul Liberty Forum threads: ucrdem Jun 2013 #106

▲▲▲▲▲▲▲▲▲ cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #92

Is that supposed to be pointing at ucrdem whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #97

Big Ups for YOU. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #121

:) whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #124

Libertarian freedom: Galraedia Jun 2013 #39

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #44

Links? Names? bigwillq Jun 2013 #42

58 recs for "Obama is a F*****G FRAUD" by a dearly departed Ron Paul Liberty Forum lunatic : ucrdem Jun 2013 #52

Ooh, let me go Rec it. bigwillq Jun 2013 #59

Make that 59. ucrdem Jun 2013 #74

I must be a Libertarian then. bigwillq Jun 2013 #76

I liked Skinner's reason for putting that one away! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #88

Classic! ucrdem Jun 2013 #138

^^^THIS^^^ Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #214

You haven't been here long enough ... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #46

Clue: Believing that we have the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness Zorra Jun 2013 #50

wow quinnox Jun 2013 #58

Excellent slapdown woo me with science Jun 2013 #65

Go figure -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #70

Point of order nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #80

Zing! Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #83

Jefferson said ALL MEN created equal. He left out 100% of every woman and minority. graham4anything Jun 2013 #99

Thank you. n/t magellan Jun 2013 #112

You win the thread. Apophis Jun 2013 #160

Indeed, and I think her post should be copied and pasted quinnox Jun 2013 #166

Indeed. Apophis Jun 2013 #169

K & R ...should be its own op. L0oniX Jun 2013 #178

Midterms next year. sagat Jun 2013 #54

What's wrong with libertarianism? (Photo) Galraedia Jun 2013 #55

Yeah, they're only sucking the life out of America! go china go russia.. Cha Jun 2013 #66

^^^ these f*uckers flamingdem Jun 2013 #85

Gotta depress the '14 turnout somehow... (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #56

oh bull shit!! I have served on MIRT and ALL libertarians and conspiracy nuts are banned immediately Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #60

Ahhhh.....another whiner about the DU. In other words we disagree with your stance. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #63

All on the Koch payroll, I'm assuming, just like the RWers. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #67

What's the purpose of this thread? I would like the hosts to consider that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #69

It is meta nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #86

Meta is correct. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #91

So now being against the government spying on its citizens makes one a libertarian? Apophis Jun 2013 #72

You don't have to be a zeeland Jun 2013 #73

How do you know that? still_one Jun 2013 #77

It's kind of hard to miss. ucrdem Jun 2013 #90

with a Bobby Kennedy avatar.. Give me a break! It is DU policy ban all libertarians immediately Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #94

Can you give me a link to that ban? Thanks. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #96

read the DU TOS. Ask anyone on MIRT Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #113

DU TOS doesn't mention libert(arian)(ism) anywhere and I've seen no evidence ucrdem Jun 2013 #118

the MIRT team bans them immediately -ask anyone one MIRT - if they slip through Skinner or EarlG Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #123

Can you post or link to any evidence of this MIRTpolicy? ucrdem Jun 2013 #130

MIRT records are kept separate on a forum only accessible to MIRT members Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #137

That would surprise me. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #139

Then volunteer for MIRT and find out. Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #164

Happy to. I just checked and I gather the next invitation comes in July. ucrdem Jun 2013 #174

Sounds about right Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #187

Thanks for the tips. ucrdem Jun 2013 #197

I think Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #133

Ah. Thanks Bobbie Jo! ucrdem Jun 2013 #135

yeah, they're not allowed on DU for a good reason. They're fucking Cha Jun 2013 #141

^ ^ for the win ucrdem Jun 2013 #144

"Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers", How did I miss that part of TOS? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #145

"hard-line communists" would have excluded Alexandr Solzhenitsyn Kolesar Jun 2013 #148

say, aren't you the one claims that Amnesty Internatinal is a right-wing Republican group who should Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #119

I believe JackRiddler posted that thread, a dupe incidentally. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #126

Yes he was, and he has become quite the expert on how many long time DUers Dragonfli Jun 2013 #205

You're confusing "Libertarians" with Civil Libertarians. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #89

+1 Deliberately so, it seems. woo me with science Jun 2013 #185

I believe in liberty, equality and a right to privacy. I don't care how you label that. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #98

Want some cheese? TransitJohn Jun 2013 #109

Awesome! fascisthunter Jun 2013 #134

OH NO! Now we are being lumped in with Paul Rand fascisthunter Jun 2013 #132

What's with all the shit-stirrers is the better question. n/t demmiblue Jun 2013 #136

what's with all the dumbfuckery on DU? frylock Jun 2013 #143

. ucrdem Jun 2013 #149

He's still working on Readers Digest: �Towards more picturesque speech" eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #165

One word per buck to promote the ratfuck, means the Koch Brothers win!! freshwest Jun 2013 #151

What's the matter: Calling DUers racists backfire on you? backscatter712 Jun 2013 #158

When have I ever called DUers racist? Galraedia Jun 2013 #163

Apparently the hosts think this OP is just dandy whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #171

It is being debated. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #172

Ah... whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #175

Don't worry they will live but it may be a few more hours before enough of the gd hosts hrmjustin Jun 2013 #181

I should let you know that while this Thread had a large number of SOP alerts, the hosts hrmjustin Jun 2013 #195

That's fine, the OP mostly got his whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #200

Well it was a rude OP. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #202

I've seen worse. Much worse. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #188

oh for the love of decency. cali Jun 2013 #173

I hope this thread stays up Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #176

Left and right, as it appears. ucrdem Jun 2013 #183

Just because I believe strongly in the constitution Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #201

Fine, but appealing to the Constitution is an old GOP campaign trick ucrdem Jun 2013 #211

� RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #186

This is a legitimate question, Galraedia.. Libertarians are not welcome on DU but Cha Jun 2013 #190

I've been here five years and have never understood the wailing, screaming, gnashing Number23 Jun 2013 #193

Plus a million. graham4anything Jun 2013 #213

LOL. This thread was like flypaper to the Paulbot libertarians Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #194

Guess that would include you whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #207

Yes, the thread starter cleary made this case by claiming Senator Wyden is a think Jun 2013 #210

Yep. Same lame ass names. Same even lamer insults (THIRD WAY!! Rawwk!! THIRD WAY!!)) Number23 Jun 2013 #212

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #216

As long as I have my privacy Iliyah Jun 2013 #219