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elfin

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53. Jury selection doomed the prosecution

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:32 PM

Jun 2013

Despite the "joke" of defense opening, having Rachel be the so far main witness plays into unwarranted stereotypes to create enough of an atmosphere to manage a not beyond a reasonable doubt conclusion. Given the history of Florida, they may have overreached in the charge.

He is lucky I am not on that jury.

I like Rachel and worry that her worst fears of uncontrolled attention are coming true, given that she tried to duck involvement for very cogent reasons IMO.

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What White People Don't Understand About Rachel Jeantel [View all] HipChick Jun 2013 OP

Jury selection is critical - a 6 woman (5 white) jury is not favorable to Rachel's experience. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #1

The prosecution had the chance to talk to her. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #2

No, she didn't. She came off as authentic, consistent and truthful about appacom Jun 2013 #8

BS. She impeached herself. She gave inconsistent answers. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #13

She gave human answers. She broke my heart. aquart Jun 2013 #16

me too. I was teary. She was his bestie!! nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #28

+1 freshwest Jun 2013 #43

The women on the jury may not create to her contradictions in the JDPriestly Jun 2013 #18

You really don't get it, do you? appacom Jun 2013 #19

She did change them several times. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #20

are you for real? CreekDog Jun 2013 #31

This is not about me, im not the one on the witness stand. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #38

Agreed. Their "wonder" witness has been a flop. n/t NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #65

Wow. Apophis Jun 2013 #67

Granted, she had enunciation issues but I thought overall she was a good witness. pacalo Jun 2013 #30

yup sad-cafe Jun 2013 #51

I didn't see her inconsistent statements as lying. She told different details to different people pnwmom Jun 2013 #42

It would have looked worse if they didnt call her. The defense would have loved that. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #72

Yep malaise Jun 2013 #3

"The cultural differences here are exponential". Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #4

Then again, a 6 woman jury may feel sympathetic towards Rachel justiceischeap Jun 2013 #5

That was my thought as well. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #14

You got me afraid to make anymore posts after pointing out how close I am justiceischeap Jun 2013 #24

Sorry! You can do what I did and do a lounge thread on it. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #25

Whew! I posted in the Photography group. justiceischeap Jun 2013 #32

Your welcome! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #50

I see that, too. n/t Mr.Bill Jun 2013 #22

This white mom agrees. yardwork Jun 2013 #62

this doesn't excuse the conflicting testimony DrDan Jun 2013 #6

Mebbe it is my multicultural experience nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #7

white female 74 year old native-born here IphengeniaBlumgarten Jun 2013 #10

white 72 year old woman born here too. DesertFlower Jun 2013 #15

And being an inexperienced young person, she thought telling a white lie would be pacalo Jun 2013 #37

so true. i worked in the legal field DesertFlower Jun 2013 #26

Were you as unimpressed with the jury pool as I was? From what I heard, I thought pacalo Jun 2013 #41

there have been some white people who get her, i think it's a race and class thing JI7 Jun 2013 #9

I am white like snow (well maybe trampled snow). I totally understood her. The empressof all Jun 2013 #11

Me too. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #71

the defense lawyer knows KT2000 Jun 2013 #12

Interesting gender issues Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #17

I saw plenty of black folks on twitter bashing her LittleBlue Jun 2013 #21

As a white male pintobean Jun 2013 #23

you're asking us to think that the Zimmerman trial not consider race? CreekDog Jun 2013 #46

Where have you been? pintobean Jun 2013 #49

He's pulling a blatant strawman on this one LittleBlue Jun 2013 #59

Yes, plenty of people here seem to confuse the message with the messenger Hissyspit Jun 2013 #27

It's almost like Rachel is on trial for murdering Trayvon by talking on the cell phone. Both sides kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #29

Dissing right back at those who are dissing her. They need to learn, but they are incapable of it. freshwest Jun 2013 #47

the death penalty should be abolished AFJROTCcadetEcho Jun 2013 #33

Whut? AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #39

Settle down.... Captain Stern Jun 2013 #45

Darned white people! H2O Man Jun 2013 #34

H2O Man, I honestly don't understand the responses I have seen from you today. antigone382 Jun 2013 #68

I have nothing H2O Man Jun 2013 #70

I think that was the mindset the defense was going for in jury selection. DevonRex Jun 2013 #69

I so disagree with you frazzled Jun 2013 #35

People here have criticized her for being "dumb." But I think the dumb one pnwmom Jun 2013 #36

Completely agree with you zentrum Jun 2013 #40

I feel bad for her.... BronxBoy Jun 2013 #44

When I was sixteen my boyfriend tavernier Jun 2013 #48

"creepy" "pervert" "stalking" riverwalker Jun 2013 #52

Totally! displacedtexan Jun 2013 #63

Jury selection doomed the prosecution elfin Jun 2013 #53

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #54

Buh bye! Brigid Jun 2013 #55

Get lost racist still_one Jun 2013 #56

NO! MineralMan Jun 2013 #57

Isn't that what racism is all about ... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #58

white, female, 65... I believed her and felt nothing but sympathy. I like the girl. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #60

She seemed genuine on the witness stand. Jenoch Jun 2013 #61

Objectively, she comes off as a bit "slow"...and that has nothing to do with race. NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #64

Defense attorney's mistake? Bullying., intimidating and mocking her. DevonRex Jun 2013 #66

I'm conflicted about this.... mike_c Jun 2013 #73

I'm a white woman and understood her with little problem. zeeland Jun 2013 #74