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marions ghost

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54. Thank you ACLU:

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:17 PM

Jun 2013

"This dragnet program is surely one of the largest surveillance efforts ever launched by a democratic government against its own citizens," said Jameel Jaffer, ACLU deputy legal director. "It is the equivalent of requiring every American to file a daily report with the government of every location they visited, every person they talked to on the phone, the time of each call, and the length of every conversation. The program goes far beyond even the permissive limits set by the Patriot Act and represents a gross infringement of the freedom of association and the right to privacy."

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Open Letter to Snowden/Greenwald demonizers. Please make up your mind. Which is it? [View all] 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 OP

You kids don't have enough flame threads to play in? eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #1

They're getting scared their position Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #5

The more we learn, the more we realize that not prosecuting the war criminals was an historical sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #61

The process is not new, the information very well might be. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #2

Now they will move n to a four star general nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3

And our resident champion of all that is good and holy... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #60

Mostly #1, though telling China which of their computers we've hacked goes into #2 territory Recursion Jun 2013 #4

It's A Partisan Vs. Patriot Thing... WillyT Jun 2013 #6

YOU. DO. NOT. GET. IT! baldguy Jun 2013 #7

This has nothing to do with Ron Red-herring-of-the-week Paul. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #16

Imagine what a DU member who is a cop, military, SS, CIA, FBI, NSA plant would be doing and saying. L0oniX Jun 2013 #25

Nice strawman, looks freshly cut Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #30

A lot is new marions ghost Jun 2013 #17

And now Russia and China have all of it. baldguy Jun 2013 #19

I am less worried about Russia and China marions ghost Jun 2013 #21

For you. baldguy Jun 2013 #22

I don't get into the Libertarian vs Liberal thing marions ghost Jun 2013 #29

"I don't get into the Libertarian vs Liberal thing" baldguy Jun 2013 #32

Thank you for your reply marions ghost Jun 2013 #45

That first statement is utterly appalling treestar Jun 2013 #28

What does it do for your sense of logic? randome Jun 2013 #34

truth always hurts marions ghost Jun 2013 #39

No, it is not the truth treestar Jun 2013 #67

OK stick with that & I'll stick with marions ghost Jun 2013 #71

Nicely put. "We're supposed to be the 'good guys', so we should act like it." nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #51

Thanks & thanks for your OP marions ghost Jun 2013 #55

You'll know the "terrorists" have won 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #56

Don't hold back, friend. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #64

I don't see any nazis here marions ghost Jun 2013 #69

That is fucking despicable. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #63

We're on the same side, I'm sure marions ghost Jun 2013 #70

Does the ACLU "NOT. GET. IT RAWWWR!" either? DirkGently Jun 2013 #24

The OP was about Snowden & Greenwald. Is the ACLU asking for a pardon for Snowden? baldguy Jun 2013 #31

Oh, so the issue IS legitimate? I thought it was all "2006?" DirkGently Jun 2013 #38

As long as you don't sit out the midterms Maximumnegro Jun 2013 #33

Is that what all this despicable denial is about? The FUCKING MIDTERMS? DirkGently Jun 2013 #42

That's my US Senator Wyden. woot! 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #53

Thank you ACLU: marions ghost Jun 2013 #54

Perhaps I am oversimplifying the situation. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #49

#2. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #8

He did not expose the existence... gcomeau Jun 2013 #9

do you understand? frylock Jun 2013 #12

If you prefer gcomeau Jun 2013 #14

you continue to use words like "treason," "traitor," and "traitorous" frylock Jun 2013 #15

No, I didn't. Try reading it again. gcomeau Jun 2013 #20

They see what they want to see; read what they want to read. baldguy Jun 2013 #37

they can come up some snarky non-sequitur.. frylock Jun 2013 #41

You have nothing to add & nothing to say. Thank you for proving my point. baldguy Jun 2013 #43

You have nothing to add & nothing to say. Thank you for proving my point. frylock Jun 2013 #44

Well I was just stating a fact. Sorry if facts upset you. lob1 Jun 2013 #50

A perfect analogy. randome Jun 2013 #18

No one can commit treason unless we're in a war declared by congress. lob1 Jun 2013 #35

Sigh... gcomeau Jun 2013 #48

Show. Me. The. Evidence. randome Jun 2013 #10

it is "and" not "or" arely staircase Jun 2013 #11

Give them a break. At some point they'll tighten up the talking points and they'll all be on the Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #13

Nice one !! I'm totally stealing it. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #58

Even better from VastLeft Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #23

Chinese are smiling at you "useful idiots" Kolesar Jun 2013 #47

Hahaha! Really? I don't need a "urban dictionary" definition. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #52

+1 Quantess Jun 2013 #65

Snowden is a fucking traitor, Greenwald works for the Guardian still_one Jun 2013 #26

I dont' see the stark inconsistency of those two positions treestar Jun 2013 #27

There's nothing incongruous to you about saying 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #57

non responsive treestar Jun 2013 #68

So says the pot to the kettle. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #72

Demonizer's a pretty good term, though I prefer the term scumbag. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #36

Show us the evidence that supports Snowden's claims. randome Jun 2013 #40

It's not character assasination - it's character definition. baldguy Jun 2013 #46

Thank you bobduca Jun 2013 #59

Yes. These are the two options: Quantess Jun 2013 #62

Two issues are being mixed up creeksneakers2 Jun 2013 #66