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JoePhilly

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43. YUP ... we better cut taxes, shrink government, and drown it in a bath tub.

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:51 AM

Jun 2013

If we believe that the government can in no way be trusted, that is.

The GOP would absolutely love for everyone to adopt this mind set of total government distrust.

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Being skeptical of government doesn't make me a "Paulbot". Fuck anyone who thinks it does. [View all] cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 OP

The shit-flingers are going to have to come up with a new epithet soon. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #1

True that. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #2

Its the Terrorism, Now ... HumansAndResources Jun 2013 #5

Very well stated. loudsue Jun 2013 #17

Gladio & Northwoods are two that demonstrate how government (or elements within government) HiPointDem Jun 2013 #18

Shadow government seems to be the appropriate terminology. reusrename Jun 2013 #38

Operation Northwoods was turned down flat DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #87

that it was even conceived and presented to the president is enough to prove my point. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #91

And this: tblue Jun 2013 #48

When she was the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi was relentlessly demonized cheapdate Jun 2013 #82

You just got TOLD. DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #86

ditto BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #14

Did the voices coming from your fillings tell you that? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #3

Neither did that whole "WMD" thing. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #12

nor Tuskegee nashville_brook Jun 2013 #69

Nor the military releases of zinc cadmium sulfide in St. Louis kas125 Jun 2013 #70

So what is the conclusion based on these mistakes DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #88

I don't know how we fix it, but pretending that these kinds of things didn't and cannot happen kas125 Jun 2013 #92

Evolution is a lie MNBrewer Jun 2013 #79

I'll add to your list. grasswire Jun 2013 #4

One more item: Operation Northwoods - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #6

Never implemented DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #90

Ron Paul has too many kooky positions for us progressives. alp227 Jun 2013 #7

Forgot Gemstone (from Watergate days) - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #8

If you're not necessarily a Paulbot, though there are such things, then neither are Obama supporters patrice Jun 2013 #9

Who said "government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem"? ErikJ Jun 2013 #10

as he led the government & expanded it. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #19

And put the corporations in control ErikJ Jun 2013 #21

Yes, that was such bullshit when he said it and it's still bullshit today. gtar100 Jun 2013 #27

Government in the hands of the corporations is a major problem. It has destroyed democracy. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #28

But he was right in this statement - just for the wrong reason? His line is one that the republican pampango Jun 2013 #31

No, he was wrong. Dead wrong. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #32

NSA Privatization-70% of NSA budget now privatized ErikJ Jun 2013 #47

skepticism is healthy. Union Scribe Jun 2013 #11

Skepticism IS healthy jberryhill Jun 2013 #52

Forgot "Northwoods". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #13

1965 VRA Iliyah Jun 2013 #15

DITTO, my friend. Ditto. Th1onein Jun 2013 #16

It's sad (and somewhat revealing) that you even have to post this. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #20

Fuck paulbot Snowden. Cha Jun 2013 #22

Who said anything about Snowden? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #40

No, fuck you. Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #56

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #71

How do I know that you aren't actually a dog? Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #73

Maybe government should be made much smaller? Sounds like it's a problem Recursion Jun 2013 #23

You forgot the shameful overthrow of Hawaii.... KauaiK Jun 2013 #24

Google "Pruit Igoe spraying". n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #25

Libertarians may not like being called on this, but .... Newest Reality Jun 2013 #26

As there are various types of Democrats MNBrewer Jun 2013 #80

You could add the Tuskegee experiment and J Edgar wiretapping MLK Jr Fumesucker Jun 2013 #29

+1 million. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #30

Nope you must have 100% faith and support when we're in control. ileus Jun 2013 #33

more than skeptical bcbink Jun 2013 #34

Being skeptical without evidence to support your skepticism is counterproductive. randome Jun 2013 #35

"The NSA is not tapping your phone." Wow, what loyal certainty. Ah to be so absolutely positive. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #42

Did you skp this part of my post? "How do I know that? I don't." randome Jun 2013 #50

"If someone shows me the evidence". Have you looked at all on the internets? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #61

Um, I don't think anyone on DU is against more transparency and less secrecy. randome Jun 2013 #65

"give secrets to other countries, put the lives of agents at risk " Where do you get this? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #75

Well, the Hong Kong media say Snowden gave them information. randome Jun 2013 #81

That ignorance is blinding usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #63

"Distrust of most things government" is the Goldwater position geek tragedy Jun 2013 #36

YUP ... we better cut taxes, shrink government, and drown it in a bath tub. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #43

+1 flamingdem Jun 2013 #55

You've just won this thread. Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #66

I think everyone here, OP especially, understands the difference between the kind of people Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #77

Right. Obama is responsable for all of that & is a evil fascist. baldguy Jun 2013 #37

The OP didn't say Obama was responsible. Nor imply it LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #58

As broken as government is right now, a whole lot of skepticism is warranted. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #39

Well, health records are much more sensitive than logs of whom I called Recursion Jun 2013 #41

The replies to this thread are either excellent satire WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #44

You can multitask. randome Jun 2013 #45

Only letting skepticism turn to apathy or sabotage would be Paul-botting. n/t Orsino Jun 2013 #46

Stop it. No independent thought. Think what we tell you or don't think at all. Karmadillo Jun 2013 #49

Who is calling you those names??? Link please. graham4anything Jun 2013 #51

I've seen others called "Paulbots" and judging from their posting history deservingly so. great white snark Jun 2013 #72

We should be sceptical of all organizations LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #53

Are you responding to the right OP Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #57

You got it. Thanks. freshwest Jun 2013 #89

Don't forget janlyn Jun 2013 #54

Forced sterilization of poor (primarily black) women in North Carolina... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2013 #59

OMG, it's the same damn people, and they even posted in this thread Hydra Jun 2013 #60

None of them really "think". bvar22 Jun 2013 #62

+1 nashville_brook Jun 2013 #67

indeed, fuck them Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #64

Paulbots on one side, Authoritarians on the other. LanternWaste Jun 2013 #68

Yep. OnionPatch Jun 2013 #74

And Operation Paperclip... villager Jun 2013 #76

Venn ze rockets go up, who cares verr zey come down. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #83

Fuck ANYONE who says it does. ~nt~ b.durruti Jun 2013 #78

The founding fathers themselves counselled a skepticism of government. DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #84

There isn't a whole lot I take at "face value" but I want to be clear on one thing... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #85