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9. Are you saying that Trayvon was kicking Zimmerman's ass?

Reply to madashelltoo (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 12:40 PM

Jun 2013

that he was on top and whaling away at him?

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Zimmerman bit off more than he could chew. [View all] madashelltoo Jun 2013 OP

the question, of course, is guilty of what DrDan Jun 2013 #1

Yeah, it sure looks more like manslaughter. mtpscwriter Jun 2013 #13

it will be easy for them to blame the jury based on "that's Florida for you" DrDan Jun 2013 #16

It thought manslaughter is like if a gun in your pocket negligently goes off and kills someone NoOneMan Jun 2013 #27

there are a couple of forms of manslaughter - voluntary and involuntary DrDan Jun 2013 #34

Picking a fight while armed with a gun seems like an act with death being a possibility NoOneMan Jun 2013 #35

that's why its important to determine who jumped who DrDan Jun 2013 #36

I consider chasing down an "asshole" while armed with a gun at night as "picking a fight" NoOneMan Jun 2013 #37

well it's a good thing this is in the hands of a jury that must sit through all of the testimony DrDan Jun 2013 #42

1st degree murder. But for Zimmie-fucks stalking of a kid walking rustydog Jun 2013 #62

won't disagree with 99% of your post - but what charges can be proven n a court of law DrDan Jun 2013 #63

"The blood appeared after Zimmerman pulled the trigger and the gun kicked back and hedgehog Jun 2013 #2

Or hit with a can inside a bag. nyquil_man Jun 2013 #5

yes samsingh Jun 2013 #3

Yep. If he didn't have his gun... kentuck Jun 2013 #4

There's a whole thread on another site theorizing the same thing, NO DNA on TM is going to be uponit7771 Jun 2013 #6

i agree...that fact totally proves noiretextatique Jun 2013 #48

Powerful yardwork Jun 2013 #7

funny how anyone who prefers to base their opinion on ALL of the evidence DrDan Jun 2013 #8

Maybe if they weren't so eager to give a guilty verdict to the victim of the killing... Scootaloo Jun 2013 #12

well . . . have not read where anyone is claiming TM is guilty DrDan Jun 2013 #19

The entire defense of Zimmerman depends on convicting Martin of assault - even though he's dead. yardwork Jun 2013 #66

it is about raising doubt as to Z being the aggressor DrDan Jun 2013 #73

because...zimmerman apologists routinely ignore the evidence noiretextatique Jun 2013 #47

I am seeing folks who have decided guilt- and those who are waiting for all evidence to be presented DrDan Jun 2013 #49

yes...there are some noiretextatique Jun 2013 #50

and that's fair as long as one reconsiders as evidence is presented DrDan Jun 2013 #51

Except for possibly punching him in the head... Pelican Jun 2013 #11

So a (supposed) punch in the head deserves a bullet in return? Myrina Jun 2013 #15

I was referring to the part where he stated that Martin did nothing illegal.... Pelican Jun 2013 #20

Martin had a right to self defense. yardwork Jun 2013 #40

I think that it would be difficult... Pelican Jun 2013 #61

Nonsense. yardwork Jun 2013 #65

And? Pelican Jun 2013 #68

Nonsense doesn't require detailed response. yardwork Jun 2013 #69

You should send that to the next Presidential campaign for the 2016 debates.... Pelican Jun 2013 #71

Forget the head smashed into the ground . . . brush Jun 2013 #41

Has evidence been added to the record that Zimmerman's own blood was on his gun? yardwork Jun 2013 #67

IF is the operative word, and so far, zimmerman's claims noiretextatique Jun 2013 #46

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if there was a shred of truth to his claim noiretextatique Jun 2013 #55

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if his claim was TRUE noiretextatique Jun 2013 #59

Are you saying that Trayvon was kicking Zimmerman's ass? hack89 Jun 2013 #9

That is what closest witness said this morning ksoze Jun 2013 #10

Yep. No way the prosecution could avoid calling Jonathan Good mtpscwriter Jun 2013 #21

Witness Makes Key Admission That He Never Saw Trayvon Martin Throw A Punch At Zimmerman frylock Jun 2013 #23

Or maybe trying to hold him down til help could get there ... Myrina Jun 2013 #14

The eyewitness said that it was Zimmerman yelling for help hack89 Jun 2013 #18

bullshit noiretextatique Jun 2013 #45

Actually - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #58

No, I'm not. madashelltoo Jun 2013 #22

There's a lot in life he couldn't chew, and he knew it. Iggo Jun 2013 #17

Is this kind of thing common in CCW states? HiddenAgenda63 Jun 2013 #28

Um, yahoos with guns are a concern of mine. Hoyt Jun 2013 #38

Word. Iggo Jun 2013 #60

The gun on his hip killed a 17 year old. People don't carry guns to look weak. MichiganVote Jun 2013 #24

i'm pretty sure it was a concealed carry weapon... beevul Jun 2013 #25

If I were a juror, this would be a critical detail to me. MichiganVote Jun 2013 #52

He didn't do what he was expected to because he was getting off on playing Cleita Jun 2013 #26

If Zimmerman was on the bottom...and he shot Trayvon in the heart...why no blood splatter Gin Jun 2013 #29

Something just occurred to me.... louis-t Jun 2013 #32

Interesting scenario! PearliePoo2 Jun 2013 #30

it fits my theory, I think Z already had his gun out Saphire Jun 2013 #33

That's reasonable to me too! nt. PearliePoo2 Jun 2013 #43

That's what he originally told the cops... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #54

Thanks for the verdict adric mutelovic Jun 2013 #31

Oh, wah, wah, wah. Maybe we should all have empty heads? WinkyDink Jun 2013 #39

yet another coincidence noiretextatique Jun 2013 #56

that makes sense: he fell forward after being shot noiretextatique Jun 2013 #44

Detective Greenley, I loved you in Boondock Saints. Fla_Democrat Jun 2013 #64

Who the hell would say "You got me"! polly7 Jun 2013 #70

That`s just the way we see it walkerbait41 Jun 2013 #72