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89. I think we're headed for a very different world. Some can adapt, some can't.

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:58 PM

Jun 2013

I don't mean to disparage you or anyone else when I say that. In retrospect, I was lucky growing up without much in the way of role models because I learned to pick and choose and to be adaptable.

There are definitely lessons to be learned with how things operated in the past but none of us can stop how the new generation will shape the future. I have no problem whatsoever with my phone metadata being stored or pictures of my license plate being taken.

Can the technology be misused? Of course it can. Any technology can be misused. But technology cannot be stopped. If there's one lesson from the past that applies to today, it's that one.

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How police track your driving [View all] n2doc Jun 2013 OP

What's "cancerous" about this? Recursion Jun 2013 #1

I am going to assume that the police in return let the public view and store their where abouts Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #4

Probably the same reason they can have more powerful guns than we can? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #6

What guns are those? Nt Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #9

SWAT teams have honest to God assault rifles (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #18

For a nominal fee we can all have one. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #44

Nope Recursion Jun 2013 #45

So I was correct, if you have the money you can have one. Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #47

What? No response? Android3.14 Jun 2013 #59

LOL! Demit Jun 2013 #67

Enough money, a clean record, permission of local law enforcement Recursion Jun 2013 #74

....and "crickets" , well played . Nt pkdu Jun 2013 #76

You're close, but not quite right ... oldhippie Jun 2013 #113

You know. I think that's an excellent idea. pa28 Jun 2013 #94

It is part of a larger puzzle of surveillance. Mojorabbit Jun 2013 #5

I'm "OK" in the sense that I have no illusions about turning back this clock Recursion Jun 2013 #7

4th Amendment ring a bell? TransitJohn Jun 2013 #17

Doesn't remotely apply here Recursion Jun 2013 #20

Oh, okay. TransitJohn Jun 2013 #25

That's why all those cars are registered, licensed jberryhill Jun 2013 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Jun 2013 #19

Oy vey. On a seemingly 'progressive' board, no less - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #11

Ain't that the truth. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #43

total surveilence and indentured servitude are progressive issues markiv Jun 2013 #63

You seem to have a real problem with the concepts of "freedom" and "liberty". nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #12

Whose freedom or liberty to travel is being infringed? jberryhill Jun 2013 #15

None of your cases involve cops TransitJohn Jun 2013 #26

So? jberryhill Jun 2013 #27

should cops also close their eyes when you drive past? Recursion Jun 2013 #28

It reminds me of those threads on DU where.... jberryhill Jun 2013 #29

No, they should observe for law breaking. They shouldn't record and geotag my passing for data mini TransitJohn Jun 2013 #32

Well they haven't kept it to that, ever Recursion Jun 2013 #33

To make sure taxes were paid. TransitJohn Jun 2013 #35

Actually historically you're dead wrong; plates used to be your driver's license Recursion Jun 2013 #37

So we're talking about plates' historicity now? TransitJohn Jun 2013 #40

You say "plates used to be your driver's license." No. At no time have my plates been my driver's AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #49

Plates used to be "one's" driver's license (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #51

It's still bullshit. I've been driving for more than 55 years. It never happened. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #53

Because driving started 55 years ago Recursion Jun 2013 #54

"deliberately obtuse to score some weird point about how intrusion by cops is a-ok". Exactly. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #58

reminds me of this movie scene markiv Jun 2013 #70

Illogical fallacies galore. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #64

Would you care to elaborate? jberryhill Jun 2013 #80

No. When you turn to logical fallacies then you dont want to discuss. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #100

You may love Big Brother taking care of you, but I dont. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #111

That wasn't the question jberryhill Jun 2013 #116

Whose freedom or liberty do you imagine is being infringed? Recursion Jun 2013 #23

one day you'll wake up wondering what the fuck happened.. frylock Jun 2013 #42

they're pros. they don't care & will never care. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #124

Illogical fallacy. Didnt say anything about "being observed". Come back whey you want rhett o rick Jun 2013 #65

Yes, you did. This is observing people in public. Recursion Jun 2013 #66

I object to my movements being tracked, recorded and put in a computer. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #73

See this article. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #112

Recursion's not one of the bad guys. Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #62

The police departments work for us. We can tell them they need to limit their blanket rhett o rick Jun 2013 #75

Because it is noting but a revenue stream. sofa king Jun 2013 #48

People like you... kirby Jun 2013 #102

On what principle would you keep police from doing this? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #103

It's the 21st century and the new generation doesn't care about this shit! randome Jun 2013 #107

Exactly what you write on all of these issues, an obsequious acceptance of Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #118

Man astonished to find he'd been photographed 112 times by police license plate reader tech Fire Walk With Me Jul 2013 #132

Palantir is the same private contrator that apologized for involvement in Wikileaks smear campaign think Jun 2013 #2

B-b-but it's LEEEEEEEGAL!!! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #3

It should only keep data from cars that are flagged for a reason. Kablooie Jun 2013 #8

Why? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #24

If my car was stolen I wouldn't mind police using technology to help find it. Kablooie Jun 2013 #41

If they would be that dumb to be driving around with stolen plates ... nolabels Jun 2013 #57

Why do you think there's a TV show called "America's Dumbest Criminals"? Kablooie Jun 2013 #69

Read the "Weird News" group here sometime Recursion Jun 2013 #78

Cops are always looking for plates of cars that are stolen, etc. treestar Jun 2013 #10

There is a huge difference between scanning for a specific license and tracking rhett o rick Jun 2013 #14

Be afraid, be very afraid Progressive dog Jun 2013 #13

All that's left to do HappyMe Jun 2013 #34

That reminds me of an incident during my Grade School Days. happyslug Jun 2013 #79

Nice condescending... 99Forever Jun 2013 #128

I just tried to keep it simple and easily understood Progressive dog Jun 2013 #129

Oh please. 99Forever Jun 2013 #130

I feel so violated! bhikkhu Jun 2013 #16

Yeah you shouldnt have anything to fear unless you are doing something wrong... bobduca Jun 2013 #22

Why do cars have individual license plates on them? jberryhill Jun 2013 #31

The plates can be used to HappyMe Jun 2013 #38

"it would be a needle in a haystack search" jberryhill Jun 2013 #85

I'm talking about what they are used for now. HappyMe Jun 2013 #87

They are used for finding needles in a haystack jberryhill Jun 2013 #88

If there were no license plates, HappyMe Jun 2013 #90

And they won't find that person either jberryhill Jun 2013 #92

Okay. HappyMe Jun 2013 #93

So the state can track our movements at all times? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #68

What does it take dor Americans to let their drug store purchases be tracked? Recursion Jun 2013 #77

The drug store isn't the police. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #81

It's significantly worse than the police Recursion Jun 2013 #82

"If most people are okay with it, it's all right?" jberryhill Jun 2013 #86

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #21

Silly WovenGems Jun 2013 #30

Much of this internecine warfare on DU results from a great disconnect in technology, I believe. randome Jun 2013 #36

Whatever "limits" are set only seem to be bent at best or broken altogether Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #60

I think we're headed for a very different world. Some can adapt, some can't. randome Jun 2013 #89

I welcome the new Totalitarian Overlords... bvar22 Jun 2013 #95

1984 was published in 1949. Its relevance to today is negligible, IMO. randome Jun 2013 #96

Says YOU... with no support and a CLEAR agenda. bvar22 Jun 2013 #98

I never said anything that's old is necessarily bad. randome Jun 2013 #99

And I think the FEARS are entirely justified. bvar22 Jun 2013 #106

I think the new generation really doesn't give a shit about trivialies like license plates... randome Jun 2013 #109

It doesn't matter if the New Generation Gives a shit about Government Intrusion... bvar22 Jun 2013 #114

But no one IS keeping files on you. They aren't 'tracking' you... randome Jun 2013 #117

They WILL have the capability to backtrack through the files at any future date ... bvar22 Jun 2013 #119

You know, people need to get comfortable with the notion that they get the government Skidmore Jun 2013 #39

Last I heard those cameras were increasing costs. ieoeja Jun 2013 #52

Unfortunately, it is the authoritarians that get the government that we pay for. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #61

In a neighborhood where I used to live, we had an issue with Johns looking for sex workers ehrnst Jun 2013 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jun 2013 #50

Do you want that to be made public? Recursion Jun 2013 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Jun 2013 #91

It's creepy. It's menancing. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #56

I wouldn't worry. secondvariety Jun 2013 #71

After reading the article... pipi_k Jun 2013 #72

They are used by repo companies & parking lot enforcement ........ Historic NY Jun 2013 #83

Automobiles were a facist's dream come true. hunter Jun 2013 #97

Oddly enough the govt still keeps no record when people leave the country Recursion Jun 2013 #104

They have license plate cameras on the border. hunter Jun 2013 #110

They don't know when you fly Recursion Jun 2013 #115

The airline doesn't just "check" your passport Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #121

Well, if they tell the Government, it's neither ICE nor State who hear it Recursion Jun 2013 #122

It's not "if" the airline tells the government Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #123

If ICE has it they are lying to State about not having it Recursion Jun 2013 #125

Things have changed a lot in the past few years Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #131

I think Minnesota has a law Jenoch Jun 2013 #101

I assume the PIs are bonded? Recursion Jun 2013 #105

I don't know what the situation is anymore. Jenoch Jun 2013 #108

Unless The American People Put An End To The Surveillance Monster, It Will Soon Metastasize cantbeserious Jun 2013 #120

When you leave your home, there is 100% chance you will be on camera liberal N proud Jun 2013 #126

I wish they had 2013 security back in the 1970s. Eton Paitz and others might have been saved. graham4anything Jun 2013 #127