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In reply to the discussion: How police track your driving [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)98. Says YOU... with no support and a CLEAR agenda.
The Bill of Rights placing restrictions on our government was finally passed in 1791,
and anyone can see that those ideas are just too old to have any relevance for you either.
I still "cling" to the Traditional Democratic Party Values of FDR too, and these pre-date Orwell!
"We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be[font size=3]established for allregardless of station, race, or creed.[/font]
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
---FDR, 1944
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be[font size=3]established for allregardless of station, race, or creed.[/font]
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
---FDR, 1944
By your rational, and that of the other "Centrist" Democrats,
these are outdated too.
Should we abandon them and embrace the New Lite Republicanism being preached by our Government?
I don't think so.
I won't go gently into THAT Good Night.
This is OLD too,
but is much more relevant than ANYTHING you have ever posted at DU....Says ME & Benjamin Franklin :
[font size=3]"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."[/font]
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I am going to assume that the police in return let the public view and store their where abouts
Arctic Dave
Jun 2013
#4
You seem to have a real problem with the concepts of "freedom" and "liberty". nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#12
No, they should observe for law breaking. They shouldn't record and geotag my passing for data mini
TransitJohn
Jun 2013
#32
Actually historically you're dead wrong; plates used to be your driver's license
Recursion
Jun 2013
#37
You say "plates used to be your driver's license." No. At no time have my plates been my driver's
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#49
It's still bullshit. I've been driving for more than 55 years. It never happened.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#53
"deliberately obtuse to score some weird point about how intrusion by cops is a-ok". Exactly.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#58
Illogical fallacy. Didnt say anything about "being observed". Come back whey you want
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#65
I object to my movements being tracked, recorded and put in a computer. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#73
The police departments work for us. We can tell them they need to limit their blanket
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#75
Exactly what you write on all of these issues, an obsequious acceptance of
Egalitarian Thug
Jun 2013
#118
Man astonished to find he'd been photographed 112 times by police license plate reader tech
Fire Walk With Me
Jul 2013
#132
Palantir is the same private contrator that apologized for involvement in Wikileaks smear campaign
think
Jun 2013
#2
There is a huge difference between scanning for a specific license and tracking
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#14
Yeah you shouldnt have anything to fear unless you are doing something wrong...
bobduca
Jun 2013
#22
What does it take dor Americans to let their drug store purchases be tracked?
Recursion
Jun 2013
#77
Much of this internecine warfare on DU results from a great disconnect in technology, I believe.
randome
Jun 2013
#36
I think the new generation really doesn't give a shit about trivialies like license plates...
randome
Jun 2013
#109
It doesn't matter if the New Generation Gives a shit about Government Intrusion...
bvar22
Jun 2013
#114
They WILL have the capability to backtrack through the files at any future date ...
bvar22
Jun 2013
#119
You know, people need to get comfortable with the notion that they get the government
Skidmore
Jun 2013
#39
Unfortunately, it is the authoritarians that get the government that we pay for.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#61
In a neighborhood where I used to live, we had an issue with Johns looking for sex workers
ehrnst
Jun 2013
#46
Unless The American People Put An End To The Surveillance Monster, It Will Soon Metastasize
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#120
I wish they had 2013 security back in the 1970s. Eton Paitz and others might have been saved.
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#127