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displacedtexan

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51. This whole self-defense deal just doesn't make sense to me.

Reply to GreenStormCloud (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:31 PM

Jun 2013

These little nagging questions I have aren't even being brought up in court; such as: How can a sidewalk produce only two tiny straight lines of cuts if your head is being bashed onto it repeatedly? (That must be some smooth concrete work! Have you ever scraped a knee on a sidewalk? I have, and it doesn't just leave 2 small scratch lines. More like Scab City.)

What's the deal with all of the questions about the flashlight and the fact that it wasn't turned on? (Could GZ have used it initially as a threat or as a weapon, and it actually whacked him in the nose when TM fought back?); and finally, why hasn't anyone pointed out how GZ didn't give a good goddamn whether TM was alive or dead after he shot him? (Seems heartless to me).

What I've determined so far during this trial: I will never vacation in Florida again, and I'm sure I'm not the only person thinking this. I say this because we rent houses and apartments when we travel (through homeaway and airbnb), which means there could be a Zimmerman type roaming the neighborhood. Judging by the tons of Florida Tv and press blog people claiming GZ is the victim, and if you think that GZ was scared for his life, you also have to accept that tourists fear gun-toting vigilantes just as much. Remember when NYC's unofficial motto was COME BACK TO NEW YORK (we weren't shooting at you)? It's like that.

Okay, rant over. Thanks for putting up with me.

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ZIMMERMAN TRIAL: Day 5, Friday - June 28, 2013 [View all] GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 OP

The prosecution has presented their best witnesses. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #1

Several prosecution witnesses helped Zimmerman's case hack89 Jun 2013 #3

It looks like the prosecution harassed her during cross davidpdx Jun 2013 #2

Greg McKinney, United Security Alliance (Video Surveillance), new witness. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #4

Videos being introduced as evidence by prosecution. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #5

John Good to stand now GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #6

It sounds like the prosecution just made a mistake justiceischeap Jun 2013 #7

Didn't catch that.... What was the reply? targetpractice Jun 2013 #10

When the gun was drawn is important. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #11

Witness saw no gun out when T on top of Z ksoze Jun 2013 #21

Good's testimony is really helping the defense. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #8

he is W6 riverwalker Jun 2013 #12

You keep missing the legal threshold Lurks Often Jun 2013 #14

the no DNA thing refutes the self-defense claim noiretextatique Jun 2013 #24

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #26

Is there any evidence that will convince you Zimmerman isn't guilty? Lurks Often Jun 2013 #30

None presented yet. uppityperson Jun 2013 #35

no...i think the murderous, lying bastard is guilty as sin noiretextatique Jun 2013 #42

At least you're honest to say so out loud n/t Lurks Often Jun 2013 #46

yes...just as many did when OJ was on trial noiretextatique Jun 2013 #50

This is false, it has to be REASONABLE. If just "fearing it" was the metric there'd be a lot more uponit7771 Jun 2013 #25

You did read the second sentence didn't you? Lurks Often Jun 2013 #28

No, and that's not Z account of it that's the MSM's and winger sites...z claimed he was "squriming" uponit7771 Jun 2013 #29

The trial is MAYBE a 1/3 over and you've already determined the guilt of the defendant Lurks Often Jun 2013 #33

there are quite a few here who have already determined guilt DrDan Jun 2013 #36

No, I can determine the evidence as presented...I'm not going to assume someone who chased an... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #37

Fortunately the case is going to be based on Florida law Lurks Often Jun 2013 #38

That's a given, I'm not going to assume his innocence though nor take his word for anything uponit7771 Jun 2013 #39

And again you ignore the law Lurks Often Jun 2013 #40

there you go again - relying on facts DrDan Jun 2013 #47

For the love of GOD---Observers can make up their minds AT ANY TIME. WE are not the JURORS. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #49

One would hope people would at least ATTEMPT Lurks Often Jun 2013 #53

There's yet to be a witness who has yet to corrobrate Zimmerman's head being repeatedly bashed... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #48

A prosecution witness has testified that she could not id Z at the scene due to his injuries hack89 Jun 2013 #17

The cut was just described as about 2cm in length and 0.5cm deep Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #52

What do you own? Jaguars? lancer78 Jun 2013 #69

911 call being played. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #9

Not a good day so far for the prosecution. woolldog Jun 2013 #13

Manslaughter is a lesser included offense DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2013 #15

Not sure it included as charged ksoze Jun 2013 #18

I thought manslaughter wasn't an option for the jury. n/t B2G Jun 2013 #19

Here DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2013 #22

At this rate they won't even charge him with that. n/t B2G Jun 2013 #23

Did the judge rule on whether the female witness yesterday (the white woman with black hair) woolldog Jun 2013 #20

key point riverwalker Jun 2013 #16

Did the witnes say no punches? That is a gating point if so, I agree... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #27

He said he saw swinging but did not actually see fist hit skin ksoze Jun 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Jun 2013 #32

So no wonder there was no Z dna on TM....and no fight marks on TM's fist and no dirt or blood uponit7771 Jun 2013 #34

EMT Stacey Livingston riverwalker Jun 2013 #41

asking about Glascow Coma score riverwalker Jun 2013 #43

Assess for consciousness, non concussion SlipperySlope Jun 2013 #61

nose moist riverwalker Jun 2013 #44

defense up now riverwalker Jun 2013 #45

This whole self-defense deal just doesn't make sense to me. displacedtexan Jun 2013 #51

it sure as hell does not make sense noiretextatique Jun 2013 #54

The dispatcher did NOT tell him to stay in the truck. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #63

and... noiretextatique Jul 2013 #70

And that was said AFTER he had left his truck. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #71

gotcha...thanks! eom noiretextatique Jul 2013 #72

Hey, don't hold it against us Floridians. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #55

Hey, I used to love Florida! displacedtexan Jun 2013 #60

Have you ever scraped a knee on a sidewalk? I have, and it doesn't just leave 2 small scratch lines. hedgehog Jun 2013 #57

no...it does not noiretextatique Jun 2013 #58

Difference between a scrape and an impact. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #64

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #67

It isn't against the law to have or not have feelings. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #65

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #66

Surely there have been enough defense witnesses so far? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #56

keep dreaming noiretextatique Jun 2013 #59

Please explain where it is destroyed? ksoze Jun 2013 #68

Oh, yeah. Another question displacedtexan Jun 2013 #62