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Fantastic Anarchist

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21. I agree ...

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:59 PM

Jun 2013

... and as long as capitalism exists, I'll definitely support the New Deal, and agitate against the attempts to repeal it.

But, and here's the rub, FDR enacted the New Deal to save capitalism from itself. He usurped a lot of socialist rhetoric in order to get elected.

So, it's sort of a conundrum .

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I am a libertarian ... [View all] Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 OP

That's actually a great point... OneGrassRoot Jun 2013 #1

You are quite right. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #2

Its like when you hear the Republican fools arguing against democracy. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #3

Oh, that irritates me, too! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #4

Democratic Republic. LWolf Jun 2013 #10

When someone says this is a Republic, not a Democracy.... Fuddnik Jun 2013 #49

"we can't vote away our ability to vote" magellan Jun 2013 #65

“If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.” ~ Emma Goldman Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #68

People latch on to 'catch phrases'. It seems to be a human weakness, often without having sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #108

I know. I had you pegged from the beginning. But this is DEMOCRATIC Underground, BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #5

What the hell? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #6

Apparently not. Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #7

I thought I kicked her dog or something. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #8

Don't do that! Fuddnik Jun 2013 #47

LMAO! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #48

Sure, you did. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #78

Project much? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #81

Nope. Callin' 'em as I sees 'em - as a Democrat on Democratic Underground BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #86

Yes, yes, of course you do. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #92

Wait till you defend the Second Amendment. Hooo-WEE! Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #97

I pretty much support all amendments. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #99

Oh, and don't forget that it was us who got the 8 hour workday ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #12

They had to hide that statue honoring the police for 121 years. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #33

I'm going to have to read that ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #36

A fine representation of the foundations on which Chicago is built. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #75

A slaughter that wasn't even committed by them. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #93

I thought the Weather Underground took care of that for good. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #56

If your post was meant to do anything other BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #79

Typical BlueCaliDem. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #80

You're still failing . . . BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #83

Yes, yes, of course I am. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #89

Good that you know and accept it! That's the first step in healing... BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #90

Typical BlueCaliDem. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #94

Typical Libertarian Fantastic Anarchist. BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #96

Steeeeeeeerike. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #100

Boy, "democratic" doesn't seem so democratic any more burnodo Jun 2013 #27

Does that go for socialists, communists, liberals, moderates, vegetarians, and Catholics? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #29

And tulip lovers, too? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #35

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #82

No, supporting what those two men did is not against DU ToS. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #91

Did you even read the first line in the part of the ToS that I've posted?? BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #95

Please, I invite you to alert on any post in here. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #98

No, what I'm saying is the obvious. That there are Democrats who are Communists, Socialists, etc. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #102

Unlike Ron Paul (the candidate that Snowden and GiGi support and voted for - a Repub in Libertarian BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #105

Loyalty oaths? Purist oaths? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #106

Then why are you here? BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #107

I'm a Democrat. This is Democratic Underground. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #109

Then act and post like one! I've read your posts. Nary a good word for the head of the BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #110

In a democracy, it is the responsibility of the people to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #111

Stalin, is that you? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #113

Thankyou for this. Whisp Jun 2013 #9

Paul type of libertarianism (misnomer if there ever was one) Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #13

How do you feel about Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Ron Paul? flamingdem Jun 2013 #11

I don't smoke pot anymore ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #14

How do you feel about Udall and Wyden? They are Civil Libertarians. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #16

And no one would vote based solely on, say, abortion burnodo Jun 2013 #28

then you are what is called a civil libertarian arely staircase Jun 2013 #15

I know we are a long way from getting there ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #17

what are your thoughts on Snowden and his idea of libertarianism. Whisp Jun 2013 #20

I support Snowden and Greenwald ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #22

I think I am more concerned about corporate power Whisp Jun 2013 #25

You're quite right ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #26

I am also a "libertarian" -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #18

I agree ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #21

I don't think we will ever be rid of... Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #45

How would "minimal unnecessary interference from the government" fit with ... JoePhilly Jun 2013 #46

I am for single payer, public education ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #52

As you said - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #55

Well said! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #61

And we have civil libertarians in this board too nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #19

Me too -- I stand with Chomsky. Great post. ~nt~ b.durruti Jun 2013 #23

Durruti! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #24

Thank you b.durruti Jun 2013 #114

Emma Goldman, Alexander Berkman, Big Bill Haywood, and Mohandas Gandhi. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #30

Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman, Ernest Hemmingway, Leo Tolstoy Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #32

Yep. Tolstoy and Gandhi were friends who communicated often. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #37

You know, I didn't know that! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #38

I'll stand with the greatest political minds of the modern era against the apparachiks leveymg Jun 2013 #103

K&R LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #31

Thank you very kindly. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #34

You educated me, and thanks. Whisp Jun 2013 #50

Thanks for keeping an open mind. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #60

Hoo boy. You seem very nice and I don't want to spoil your evening ucrdem Jun 2013 #39

Historical libertarianism .... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #40

You were shown the history already nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #41

I am for the ideology mick063 Jun 2013 #42

I think in general, people have the right to be labeled the way they want to be labeled. stevenleser Jun 2013 #43

I appreciate your post. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #44

But there is a huge difference between libertarian and Libertarian. jazzimov Jun 2013 #51

Me too. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #53

So now that we admit semanitcs can be an issue, jazzimov Jun 2013 #70

That's a great question. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #71

I'm back and really hungover .... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #88

Black block? nt rdharma Jun 2013 #54

I think you're fighting an uphill battle. cheapdate Jun 2013 #57

Obviously, I think that the country would no longer exist as a state-entity. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #63

I hear you.. DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #58

I hear you, too. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #66

Black Block? rdharma Jun 2013 #59

Are you referring to Black Bloc? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #62

Spelling error..... Black Bloc rdharma Jun 2013 #64

Yes, I agree. Some are total numbskulls. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #67

Tactics that discredited the occupy movement. rdharma Jun 2013 #69

Thanks for this, it's got me wondering... magellan Jun 2013 #72

K+R sibelian Jun 2013 #73

Whatever you are, I am proud to call myself your sister n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #74

And I your brother, Catherina! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #84

And Randian libtertarians call themselves "classic liberals" Scootaloo Jun 2013 #76

Classical Liberalism ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #85

In the UK, 'libertarian' used to mean 'civil libertarian' ... LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #77

That is true. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #87

In future discussions on anarchism, socialism, and libertarianism Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #104

Libertarians in the US are republicans who BlueToTheBone Jun 2013 #101

Thank you for initiating this felix_numinous Jun 2013 #112