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In reply to the discussion: I am a libertarian ... [View all]Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... required no New Deal to "save capitalism from itself." The people agitated for a classless, stateless society where people were free from want or need.
Like I said upthread, it was in the 1950s and 1960s where libertarianism became a term for reactionaries.
And Chomsky is not the only libertarian-socialist. In fact, ironically speaking, many anarchists are in conflict with Chomsky specifically because Chomsky supports the New Deal type of government because otherwise, in a capitalist world, there is no other alternative. He's not "all or nothing."
I agree with Chomsky on this sentiment.
Ideally, I'd like to have no state nor capitalism. But I understand the realities as they exist today, and under capitalist society, a New Deal type of government that provides a safety net is a necessity. But it is a paradox because holding up the New Deal, just keeps bourgeois capitalism on life-support.
Though, I believe in revolutionary politics, I am not a revolutionary (there is no revolution yet, and until then, I am not a revolutionary). So, either capitalism continues and we help the poor and working classes, or we affect revolution. To me, the former is the more possible of the two alternatives. And so, as with Chomsky, I support the New Deal.
Edit to add: Even in this country, historical libertarianism agitated for labor rights and the eight hour work day (Haymarket Martyrs). FDR pushed the New Deal precisely because of agitation from the various socialists.
The reactionaries are the charlatans for even using the word. They are the fascists. We are the libertarians.