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(11,464 posts) Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:54 PM Jun 2013

Hlllary Clinton strongest non-incumbent in history=Nate Silver on 2016 presidential- [View all]

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/06/28/the_strongest_non-incumbent_in_history.html

The Strongest Non-Incumbent in History
Nate Silver on Hillary Clinton: "From the standpoint of the party primary, it's almost as though she's an incumbent president, right, where she even trumps, kind of, the VP, who very often wins nomination after a president is term-limited. If you look at polls, you know, 60 to 70 percent of Democrats say they prefer Hillary to be the nominee. There's no kind of non-incumbent in history with those types of numbers."

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Hlllary Clinton strongest non-incumbent in history=Nate Silver on 2016 presidential- [View all] graham4anything Jun 2013 OP

well maybe one dsc Jun 2013 #1

George Washington too pscot Jun 2013 #3

And Harrison and Jackson. Less so Garfield, Tyler, and Pierce (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #18

dog save us all, if that is the case. Whisp Jun 2013 #2

"us" ? DURHAM D Jun 2013 #6

oh, I know what you mean. Whisp Jun 2013 #7

I have no clue what your freedom Fry reference is about. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #9

The rest will be trooping in soon enough. Beacool Jun 2013 #12

I think you have me confused with others with that NAFTA thing. Whisp Jun 2013 #15

Blaming Hillary for NAFTA has been your thing for years. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #17

now I'm sure you have me mixed up with someone else. Whisp Jun 2013 #19

keep dancing DURHAM D Jun 2013 #21

if it's that important to you, I will accept your accusation on NAFTA. Whisp Jun 2013 #23

right. you've never heard of "freedom fries". delrem Jun 2013 #32

And then DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #4

You tell 'em, Nate!!! nt MADem Jun 2013 #5

And Jebby Bush is giving her a medal.......... Historic NY Jun 2013 #8

Oh, that's going to go well around here. Beacool Jun 2013 #10

Yep. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #11

The bitters will be here soon enough. Beacool Jun 2013 #13

Good gods, I hope she's not the nominee. Apophis Jun 2013 #14

If she runs... she is. Not really a question. -eom gcomeau Jun 2013 #22

So it's going to be a Republican vs a Republican-lite for President. Apophis Jun 2013 #24

Don't be a child. gcomeau Jun 2013 #25

Yeah. Hyperbole. Apophis Jun 2013 #28

The eye rolling indicates... gcomeau Jun 2013 #31

exactly: it'll be a republican vs a republican. Simple. delrem Jun 2013 #33

OK, Corporatist Republican vs Corporatist Dem. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #36

Really, not Nixon in 1960? hughee99 Jun 2013 #16

Nixon was the incumbent VP in 1960 tritsofme Jun 2013 #29

As sorry, I need to pay attention. n/t hughee99 Jun 2013 #30

Heh! I was wondering when hillary4anything would chime in!! madinmaryland Jun 2013 #20

If she runs for the Democratic nomination, I will happily campaign against her. David__77 Jun 2013 #26

Are you talking from the perspective of an Obama supporter? stevenleser Jun 2013 #27

I'm not so sure of her loyalty as SoS. Whisp Jun 2013 #35

+1. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #57

Detestable??????? Beacool Jun 2013 #34

She did run a bad campaign. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #37

That's a matter of opinion. Beacool Jun 2013 #41

I'm not thrilled with what we ended up with either. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #43

The Clintons never make the same mistake twice. Beacool Jun 2013 #47

well, that's the problem for Hillary right there: what you said: Whisp Jun 2013 #48

Oh, you're so clever......... Beacool Jun 2013 #49

It was Hillary supporters who moved Fla's primary date up, HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #56

No, that's not so. Beacool Jun 2013 #58

Bullshit. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #60

Yeah, whatever. Beacool Jun 2013 #62

my response to some comments above is as always FORWARD,Hillary winning landslide with voters united graham4anything Jun 2013 #38

What are you on that's giving you these hallucinations? hobbit709 Jun 2013 #65

"Hillary is a monster" -Samantha Power, Obama's designate for UN Ambassador Fumesucker Jun 2013 #39

We move ahead by moving forward. 95% of the voters landslide victory.The other 5%, oh well. graham4anything Jun 2013 #40

Yeah, and she had to quit his campaign. Beacool Jun 2013 #50

It was a gaffe, defined as a politician inadvertently telling the truth n/t Fumesucker Jun 2013 #55

Truth???? Beacool Jun 2013 #59

Ugh. 3rd Way warmonger who trumpeted Bush's wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #42

Yes she did. Will never forget that. Though closeupready Jun 2013 #61

She won't get my vote, no matter what DU demands I do n/t whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #44

Suit yourself. Beacool Jun 2013 #51

Who cares, it's 2013. marmar Jun 2013 #45

Cory Booker Oct. 2013 senate vs. a Koch brotherbacked ultra conservative graham4anything Jun 2013 #46

Credible BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #52

Same was said in 2007, how did that turn out? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #53

Hopefully we get an actual progressive candidate to run against her. PoliticalPothead Jun 2013 #54

She's not ready. Beacool Jun 2013 #64

your judgement on readiness needs some work Whisp Jun 2013 #68

Your judgment on anything Clinton needs even more work. Beacool Jun 2013 #71

Oh, you want to talk about pardons, do you? Marc Rich. Whisp Jun 2013 #73

Yeah, so? Beacool Jun 2013 #76

Except that this time there won't be another Obama coming out of the woodwork. Beacool Jun 2013 #63

How do you know? LittleBlue Jun 2013 #66

Obama had come out of the woodwork 4 years beforehand via a convention speech that 38 million stevenleser Jun 2013 #67

maybe so that there is no Obama this time around but Whisp Jun 2013 #69

No, she wasn't. Beacool Jun 2013 #70

Benghazi, Schmenghazi... it's the State Dept Sex Assault and Pedophilia scandal Whisp Jun 2013 #72

You bore me............ Beacool Jun 2013 #75

Hopefully majority of the voters would wake up and finally elect someone better than that. idwiyo Jun 2013 #74

I won't vote for her mick063 Jun 2013 #77

I vow that I will NOT tear down any candidate that runs against Hillary. graham4anything Jun 2013 #78