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In reply to the discussion: Snowden will go down a hero for my generation [View all]avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)44. Even our elected officials don't understand the scope of the spying on Americans. And it appears
they have not been allowed to know.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation is suing the Justice Department under the Freedom of Information Act, based on a request made last year by Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon about that specific Fourth Amendment violation.
Wyden is regularly briefed about the activities of the NSA and FISC, and he asked the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) last year to release some information about the Patriot Act and the Fourth Amendmentmost probably because he knew it existed and he couldnt talk about it directly.
A letter to Wyden from Kathleen Turner, the director of legal affairs for the DNI, confirmed that on at least one occasion, FISC found that an information request from the NSA wasnt reasonable under the Fourth Amendment.
Turner also said, I believe that the governments implementation of Section 702 of FISA [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] has sometimes circumvented the spirit of the law, and on at least one occasion the FISA Court has reached this same conclusion.
http://news.yahoo.com/courts-doj-tussle-over-fourth-amendment-spying-violations-100040425.html
Wyden is regularly briefed about the activities of the NSA and FISC, and he asked the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) last year to release some information about the Patriot Act and the Fourth Amendmentmost probably because he knew it existed and he couldnt talk about it directly.
A letter to Wyden from Kathleen Turner, the director of legal affairs for the DNI, confirmed that on at least one occasion, FISC found that an information request from the NSA wasnt reasonable under the Fourth Amendment.
Turner also said, I believe that the governments implementation of Section 702 of FISA [the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act] has sometimes circumvented the spirit of the law, and on at least one occasion the FISA Court has reached this same conclusion.
http://news.yahoo.com/courts-doj-tussle-over-fourth-amendment-spying-violations-100040425.html
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The poster needs the definition of a hero. Try Nelson Mandela. Snowden . . . not so much.
brush
Jun 2013
#81
IF your generation thinks that a anti-America CRIMINAL THIEF is a hero then that is sad. n/t
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#8
If you think Snowden is anti-American and a thief that is YOUR generation's problem.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#20
Even our elected officials don't understand the scope of the spying on Americans. And it appears
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#44
The founding fathers? The ones that thought slavery should be legal & women should not vote? LOL
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#35
Making an end-run to a third party - is a poor excuse for breaking the law.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#39
The real enemies are those who lied us into Vietnam (I'm also a 'Nam Vet)
AnotherDreamWeaver
Jun 2013
#33
Oh, I think you're "having a laugh." If you really believe that, you need to get out more. nt
MADem
Jun 2013
#17
I was lucky, I had people like Bobby Kennedy, Gene McCarthy, and Daniel Ellsberg....
Rowdyboy
Jun 2013
#27
No its not the same world, and I'm really saddened by the quality of what passes for a hero today
Rowdyboy
Jun 2013
#87
I've always put it that way. John Galt needs to Go John Connor. Get off the net, wireless, phone,
freshwest
Jun 2013
#76
So, you are the official spokesperson for your generation? Were you elected to this position?
kwassa
Jun 2013
#47
I dunno. Giving away secrets to Russia, China, and go knows who else is not hero worthy.
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#52
What a sad statement on your generation! Luckily, he only represents a handful of nuts.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#77
It's only natural. Charles Manson, Jesse James, Mata Hari, Tsarnaev Bros, eg....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#83
Snowden is not a hero in any generation, he has not saved any lives or promoted this
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#97
I must admit that I fail to see anything even remotely "heroic" about what he has done.
HiddenAgenda63
Jun 2013
#107