Former East German secret police captain says NSA spying ‘a dream come true

[felix_numinous]

34. This is why Germany

(and others) isn't putting up with this surveillance shit.

I think we have a lot more to learn from post- war Europe--what steps have they taken in response to this surveillance state...

Since these are multinationals, I wonder if the best ways to counter their abuses is a multinational response. Not only is our problem corporate, but they are not truly American, nor are they beholden to American interests. This is how they have us in a stranglehold, and why every time we come at them from one direction they are able to shift their activities to another.

These multinational entities are doing great damage to our democracy, economy and infrastructure and ecology-- because THEY ARE NOT AMERICAN. And all if the destabilization through divide and conquer techniques have been perfected overseas, and now are being used domestically. They are completely unfettered when the RW is in power, because they foster true believer authoritarian type psychology as crowd control.

We can do this--the first thing is to get rid if Diebold and get our elections back. Then we have to welcome President and Mrs. Obama back from overseas. They just happen to be in the WH--because the scope of this situation is WAY beyond this executive, and was put into place years ago ( I'm not sure what choices our Reps have right now?) I hope my post makes some sense to you all

Peace~~Felix