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In reply to the discussion: Snowden will go down a hero for my generation [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)76. I've always put it that way. John Galt needs to Go John Connor. Get off the net, wireless, phone,
mobile devices, youtube, facebook, and twitter and whatever else you use to networkwith. Do I need to explain how LEOs knew where OWS was going next? Are people really that tech illiterate?
Using the pronoun you in general. but not personally:
While you're at it, close your bank and savings account, credit cards, stop paying health insurance, car insurance, rent, taxes, mortgages, car notes, memberships and any other payments that are traceable. Each and every one in the same data base in order to make them work, understand?
Then go sovereign citizen and give up your driver license, and any vehicle that has to be registered, and your passport - unless you're leaving to a country where no ID is ever required.
((Get back with us on this. I'm thinking Somalia. Wait, they have guys with guns who can tell who's who. If you are not who they like, too bad for you.))
And while you're at it, burn your social security card that started all this mess. Everything I've listed uses it as an ID. It's the master file. Don't get any vaccines, as that's how they microchip you, don't you know. Muahaha. Really, get your bug out kit and boots and flee for the hills.
Don't go and see any of your family and friends who are still in the evil electronic system, or the Terminator Two will acquire you there. No escape from technology. But John Connor did escape for quite a while. Until the future came back for him.
Just like it's coming for all of us.
I don't know whether to put a
, a
, or just
. Fine, let's leave it at the last one. I'm a bit tired of people yelling for freedom from the technology they pay every day to support, which has out run the basis of privacy laws in the world.
Do I like it? No. Am I an authoritarian swooning, boot licking fascist for stating plain facts and suggesting that the solution to the problem is not poutrage on the net, but taking responsibility for one's own data and refusing to submit to an ever increasing grid of communications that may or may not end up being oppressive?
Am I at fault for not trying to force every news story to match up with the paranoid fantasies of Infowars about a dystopia that doesn't have to happen, if people would start getting into government since as it's said it's the big evil government doing this?
When that is the mantra of Reagan and the Koch brothers who would put no limits on corporations ruling us directly and without any voice, as they buy up all the necessities of life to extort our labor from?
And even that is not a sure thing, as there are infinite variables, that the media has not considered, and are being swallowed like kool aid here about this issue?
I ain't buying any of it.
Whisp
Using the pronoun you in general. but not personally:
While you're at it, close your bank and savings account, credit cards, stop paying health insurance, car insurance, rent, taxes, mortgages, car notes, memberships and any other payments that are traceable. Each and every one in the same data base in order to make them work, understand?
Then go sovereign citizen and give up your driver license, and any vehicle that has to be registered, and your passport - unless you're leaving to a country where no ID is ever required.
((Get back with us on this. I'm thinking Somalia. Wait, they have guys with guns who can tell who's who. If you are not who they like, too bad for you.))
And while you're at it, burn your social security card that started all this mess. Everything I've listed uses it as an ID. It's the master file. Don't get any vaccines, as that's how they microchip you, don't you know. Muahaha. Really, get your bug out kit and boots and flee for the hills.
Don't go and see any of your family and friends who are still in the evil electronic system, or the Terminator Two will acquire you there. No escape from technology. But John Connor did escape for quite a while. Until the future came back for him.
Just like it's coming for all of us.
I don't know whether to put a
Do I like it? No. Am I an authoritarian swooning, boot licking fascist for stating plain facts and suggesting that the solution to the problem is not poutrage on the net, but taking responsibility for one's own data and refusing to submit to an ever increasing grid of communications that may or may not end up being oppressive?
Am I at fault for not trying to force every news story to match up with the paranoid fantasies of Infowars about a dystopia that doesn't have to happen, if people would start getting into government since as it's said it's the big evil government doing this?
When that is the mantra of Reagan and the Koch brothers who would put no limits on corporations ruling us directly and without any voice, as they buy up all the necessities of life to extort our labor from?
And even that is not a sure thing, as there are infinite variables, that the media has not considered, and are being swallowed like kool aid here about this issue?
I ain't buying any of it.
Whisp
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The poster needs the definition of a hero. Try Nelson Mandela. Snowden . . . not so much.
brush
Jun 2013
#81
IF your generation thinks that a anti-America CRIMINAL THIEF is a hero then that is sad. n/t
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#8
If you think Snowden is anti-American and a thief that is YOUR generation's problem.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#20
Even our elected officials don't understand the scope of the spying on Americans. And it appears
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#44
The founding fathers? The ones that thought slavery should be legal & women should not vote? LOL
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#35
Making an end-run to a third party - is a poor excuse for breaking the law.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#39
The real enemies are those who lied us into Vietnam (I'm also a 'Nam Vet)
AnotherDreamWeaver
Jun 2013
#33
Oh, I think you're "having a laugh." If you really believe that, you need to get out more. nt
MADem
Jun 2013
#17
I was lucky, I had people like Bobby Kennedy, Gene McCarthy, and Daniel Ellsberg....
Rowdyboy
Jun 2013
#27
No its not the same world, and I'm really saddened by the quality of what passes for a hero today
Rowdyboy
Jun 2013
#87
I've always put it that way. John Galt needs to Go John Connor. Get off the net, wireless, phone,
freshwest
Jun 2013
#76
So, you are the official spokesperson for your generation? Were you elected to this position?
kwassa
Jun 2013
#47
I dunno. Giving away secrets to Russia, China, and go knows who else is not hero worthy.
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#52
What a sad statement on your generation! Luckily, he only represents a handful of nuts.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#77
It's only natural. Charles Manson, Jesse James, Mata Hari, Tsarnaev Bros, eg....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#83
Snowden is not a hero in any generation, he has not saved any lives or promoted this
Thinkingabout
Jun 2013
#97
I must admit that I fail to see anything even remotely "heroic" about what he has done.
HiddenAgenda63
Jun 2013
#107