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cheapdate

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56. I want to know

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:03 AM

Jun 2013

Why some "social welfare groups" who promised in their applications, under penalty of perjury, that they wouldn’t get involved in elections, and then went and did just that, aren't being charged with perjury?

They lied on their applications. They said they were social welfare charities and would not be engaged in legally impermissible election activities. Then they went and did just that. They used their charity status to hide the identity of their donors. That means the American people are prevented from knowing who is financing political campaigns.

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'The entire scandal narrative was an illusion' [View all] ProSense Jun 2013 OP

"Ha, ha America. We fooled you. Again. As usual. Smirk." - RepubliBaggers, Inc. (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #1

Many Rs have fallen back on their favorite smear of Obama: "He's not a leader." stopbush Jun 2013 #76

It's sad to see posters on DU helping the GOP circulate that narrative baldguy Jun 2013 #2

Yep. Media said it, we believed it. Orsino Jun 2013 #11

I wish it were that simple � 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #52

Probably just proves we're human. Orsino Jun 2013 #67

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #71

I agree. Something deeper, darker, and nastier is going on Hekate Jul 2013 #116

We don't have a free media. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #113

And, good ol stalwart "journalist". Jon Karl(for one mediawhore example). Cha Jun 2013 #59

It's a good point Roy Rolling Jun 2013 #43

I lost a lot of respect for a lot of DU'rs who madokie Jul 2013 #115

Right Hekate Jul 2013 #117

Duh. Everything out of Republican mouths is an illusion. intheflow Jun 2013 #3

And that's the frustrating thing that the Repugs learned long ago. LisaLynne Jun 2013 #4

It wouldn't be so bad if the M$M was a level playing field 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #54

It's the old "When did you stop beating your wife?" smear. If you say you never have... Hekate Jul 2013 #118

Benghazi, IRS, birth certificate are indeed bullshit "scandals" Skittles Jun 2013 #5

All a distraction from the real scandal, Republican obstruction DainBramaged Jun 2013 #14

That was one of my favorite songs! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #20

Agree. Unfortunately, the Dem response spooky3 Jun 2013 #27

that one I cannot figure out Skittles Jun 2013 #63

Manufactured bullshit from the bullshit machine: the Fox Opinion Channel. Initech Jun 2013 #49

I can actually say I agree with you on this. zeemike Jun 2013 #6

So let's see ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #53

The media? zeemike Jun 2013 #55

That is a very narrow ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #69

I am sorry but it was the congress who created these "scandals" zeemike Jun 2013 #72

Okay, let me ask you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #73

OK I will play the programed quiz zeemike Jun 2013 #74

My questions were NOT a test ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #78

Well this sounds like it to me. zeemike Jun 2013 #84

So you didn't mis-read the question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #85

Fuck that "save face" crap zeemike Jun 2013 #86

So ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #87

And it is you that decieds what is ignorance. zeemike Jun 2013 #89

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #91

Well I will not continue this zeemike Jun 2013 #92

Okay, simple solution ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #93

You don;t get it. zeemike Jun 2013 #94

What you have described as a "Game" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #95

And you characterizing what i said is a game too, zeemike Jun 2013 #96

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #97

I am not afraid to be who I am. zeemike Jun 2013 #98

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #100

1StrongBlackMan, your argument is excellent. cheapdate Jun 2013 #102

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #103

And, BTW ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #88

In error in YOUR mind zeemike Jun 2013 #90

Very well articulated points, 1Strong... Hekate Jul 2013 #119

lol.. exactly. The media drives every narrative agenda to blame Pres Cha Jun 2013 #60

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #70

President Obama has been so squeaky clean that they have to manufacture BlueCaliDem Jun 2013 #80

Excellent indictment of the US "media", BlueCali! Cha Jun 2013 #101

Huge K&R!!!...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #7

K&R flamingdem Jun 2013 #8

Issa is still investigating the IRS issue Iliyah Jun 2013 #9

Spot on. go west young man Jun 2013 #10

They're still investigating the IRS issue NewJeffCT Jun 2013 #12

Props to the Obama administration. Another GOP scandal crashes and burns ucrdem Jun 2013 #13

There is a "libertarian left"? Iliyah Jun 2013 #16

So it seems: ucrdem Jun 2013 #19

Nah - LOL Iliyah Jun 2013 #23

Wow: Says he's on the Libertarian Left and believes "most DUers" are as well! Hekate Jul 2013 #120

I don't care any more for Maddow's spin than I do for faux news' - Skip Intro Jun 2013 #15

well clearly there is a right-wing bias at work here NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #17

Oh sure, the right will try to "draw blood" from this no matter what, Skip Intro Jun 2013 #21

Dems are fighting back. ucrdem Jun 2013 #22

A lot of far left hates Holder as well. Iliyah Jun 2013 #24

A lot of far left calls itself libertarian. ucrdem Jun 2013 #28

I don't know why? Iliyah Jun 2013 #30

It wasn't a question. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #32

He's just posting slander crap. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #44

Thanks for dropping by. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #48

It's quite well organized. You should take a look at this. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #51

Like who? Octafish Jun 2013 #36

Hi Octa, have you been following this discussion ucrdem Jun 2013 #38

I want to know who you identify as Libertarian and a leftist Octafish Jun 2013 #39

There are two kinds of links, permalink and post in thread. ucrdem Jun 2013 #41

So, you have no names. Just your 'word.' Octafish Jun 2013 #46

Do have a problem clicking links or are you just in bad mood? ucrdem Jun 2013 #47

p.s. since yesterday at least two more OPs pushing Libertarianism ucrdem Jun 2013 #81

yes, there is some pushback... just not enough imo NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #35

I think a lot of the pushback goes on under the radar ucrdem Jun 2013 #37

Totally agree. Let's get into the nature of power & how it's being used. toby jo Jun 2013 #25

The answer to most of your questions is, the same reason people who are not guilty take stevenleser Jun 2013 #26

I want to know cheapdate Jun 2013 #56

First of all, it's not "Maddow" who wrote it.. so you have to get that straight right off the Cha Jun 2013 #61

What this country needs . . is a giant enema!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #18

Not even an apology is coming malaise Jun 2013 #29

+1 So many important issues (Voting rights takedown is the most important of all). So many smears graham4anything Jun 2013 #31

Hear hear! Iliyah Jun 2013 #33

Was the IRS "scandal" an illusion or a lie? SwissTony Jun 2013 #34

Illusions~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #40

The media will run all of the bullshit accusations in 2014 RandiFan1290 Jun 2013 #42

Excellent summation. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #45

Republican agenda for 2014 Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #50

K&R Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #57

Where the hell have I heard this before? Cha Jun 2013 #58

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2013 #62

Don't leave out kitt6 Jun 2013 #64

That's the Republican SOP.."stitching together unrelated data points" into a scandal. DCBob Jun 2013 #65

What's needed is a progressive group to make a humorous, but damming Fla Dem Jun 2013 #66

this infuriates me. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2013 #68

Certainly. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #75

Nice one. R&K nt longship Jun 2013 #77

It was all an attempt to damage the President before his ultimate Victory on Immigration MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #79

I don't think the part where the administration apologized for singling out tea party groups tularetom Jun 2013 #82

GMTA--And I promise I didn't see this OP first!! DFW Jun 2013 #83

K&R. n/t FSogol Jun 2013 #99

Since people want to spend their lives kitt6 Jun 2013 #104

the media as compliant as usual spanone Jun 2013 #105

This is NOT about ''scandals.'' DeSwiss Jun 2013 #106

The media used to hold lessons-learned panels 20 years ago BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #107

If they still existed..... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #108

LOL very true! BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #109

Almost all... kentuck Jun 2013 #110

Thank you for posting this, ProSense. n/t protect our future Jun 2013 #111

Quite different on the weekends kick. Scurrilous Jun 2013 #112

Kick and Rec 101 Hekate Jul 2013 #114