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In reply to the discussion: Isn't it amusing to see all the Obama defenders ignoring the issue of mass surveillance? [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)President Obama put this out for discussion.
If the ADULTS talk about it, and remove hyperbole, it will happen.
If it's just a political wedge issue it won't.
THIS US Supreme court took away voting rights. Do you think THIS court will overturn this? I do not.
It is a wedge issue.
ANd I for one think a President's job is to do whatever it takes.
My main flaw with FDR is that he took years too long to get involved.
And FDR is beloved everywhere, yet things were done that weren't so nice.
Lincoln too.
NOBODY has been harmed by this except now in the aftermath, it is a wedge issue.
It was an oblique issue, one of minor importance.
Major is what the court did to voting rights.
BTW-a MAJOR flaw in logic is Iraq.
HAD IRAQ BEEN INVOLVED, then nothing would have been wrong with Iraq.
Because 99.99% voted for Afghanastan, including the so called legend Ron Paul-he voted FOR WAR.
The side issue of Iraq was it was not the correct place.
We need everything to protect the nation and the world from the rogue attackers.
Most wars have a purpose.
Is there anyone who thinks we never should have been involved in the 1930s/1940s
Or the Civil War
Or the revolutionary war?