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67. Has evidence been added to the record that Zimmerman's own blood was on his gun?

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:40 AM

Jun 2013

That would be very damning to Zimmerman. It would definitely imply that the minor injuries to Zimmerman's face were due to his own gun kicking back and hitting him in the face when he shot Martin.

I would not be surprised if the scalp injuries were self-inflicted, but even if they were caused by Martin, I don't see how that gave Zimmerman the right to shoot an unarmed person dead after Zimmerman initiated the confrontation by stalking an unarmed teen through his own neighborhood while armed with a gun.

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Zimmerman bit off more than he could chew. [View all] madashelltoo Jun 2013 OP

the question, of course, is guilty of what DrDan Jun 2013 #1

Yeah, it sure looks more like manslaughter. mtpscwriter Jun 2013 #13

it will be easy for them to blame the jury based on "that's Florida for you" DrDan Jun 2013 #16

It thought manslaughter is like if a gun in your pocket negligently goes off and kills someone NoOneMan Jun 2013 #27

there are a couple of forms of manslaughter - voluntary and involuntary DrDan Jun 2013 #34

Picking a fight while armed with a gun seems like an act with death being a possibility NoOneMan Jun 2013 #35

that's why its important to determine who jumped who DrDan Jun 2013 #36

I consider chasing down an "asshole" while armed with a gun at night as "picking a fight" NoOneMan Jun 2013 #37

well it's a good thing this is in the hands of a jury that must sit through all of the testimony DrDan Jun 2013 #42

1st degree murder. But for Zimmie-fucks stalking of a kid walking rustydog Jun 2013 #62

won't disagree with 99% of your post - but what charges can be proven n a court of law DrDan Jun 2013 #63

"The blood appeared after Zimmerman pulled the trigger and the gun kicked back and hedgehog Jun 2013 #2

Or hit with a can inside a bag. nyquil_man Jun 2013 #5

yes samsingh Jun 2013 #3

Yep. If he didn't have his gun... kentuck Jun 2013 #4

There's a whole thread on another site theorizing the same thing, NO DNA on TM is going to be uponit7771 Jun 2013 #6

i agree...that fact totally proves noiretextatique Jun 2013 #48

Powerful yardwork Jun 2013 #7

funny how anyone who prefers to base their opinion on ALL of the evidence DrDan Jun 2013 #8

Maybe if they weren't so eager to give a guilty verdict to the victim of the killing... Scootaloo Jun 2013 #12

well . . . have not read where anyone is claiming TM is guilty DrDan Jun 2013 #19

The entire defense of Zimmerman depends on convicting Martin of assault - even though he's dead. yardwork Jun 2013 #66

it is about raising doubt as to Z being the aggressor DrDan Jun 2013 #73

because...zimmerman apologists routinely ignore the evidence noiretextatique Jun 2013 #47

I am seeing folks who have decided guilt- and those who are waiting for all evidence to be presented DrDan Jun 2013 #49

yes...there are some noiretextatique Jun 2013 #50

and that's fair as long as one reconsiders as evidence is presented DrDan Jun 2013 #51

Except for possibly punching him in the head... Pelican Jun 2013 #11

So a (supposed) punch in the head deserves a bullet in return? Myrina Jun 2013 #15

I was referring to the part where he stated that Martin did nothing illegal.... Pelican Jun 2013 #20

Martin had a right to self defense. yardwork Jun 2013 #40

I think that it would be difficult... Pelican Jun 2013 #61

Nonsense. yardwork Jun 2013 #65

And? Pelican Jun 2013 #68

Nonsense doesn't require detailed response. yardwork Jun 2013 #69

You should send that to the next Presidential campaign for the 2016 debates.... Pelican Jun 2013 #71

Forget the head smashed into the ground . . . brush Jun 2013 #41

Has evidence been added to the record that Zimmerman's own blood was on his gun? yardwork Jun 2013 #67

IF is the operative word, and so far, zimmerman's claims noiretextatique Jun 2013 #46

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if there was a shred of truth to his claim noiretextatique Jun 2013 #55

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if his claim was TRUE noiretextatique Jun 2013 #59

Are you saying that Trayvon was kicking Zimmerman's ass? hack89 Jun 2013 #9

That is what closest witness said this morning ksoze Jun 2013 #10

Yep. No way the prosecution could avoid calling Jonathan Good mtpscwriter Jun 2013 #21

Witness Makes Key Admission That He Never Saw Trayvon Martin Throw A Punch At Zimmerman frylock Jun 2013 #23

Or maybe trying to hold him down til help could get there ... Myrina Jun 2013 #14

The eyewitness said that it was Zimmerman yelling for help hack89 Jun 2013 #18

bullshit noiretextatique Jun 2013 #45

Actually - Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #58

No, I'm not. madashelltoo Jun 2013 #22

There's a lot in life he couldn't chew, and he knew it. Iggo Jun 2013 #17

Is this kind of thing common in CCW states? HiddenAgenda63 Jun 2013 #28

Um, yahoos with guns are a concern of mine. Hoyt Jun 2013 #38

Word. Iggo Jun 2013 #60

The gun on his hip killed a 17 year old. People don't carry guns to look weak. MichiganVote Jun 2013 #24

i'm pretty sure it was a concealed carry weapon... beevul Jun 2013 #25

If I were a juror, this would be a critical detail to me. MichiganVote Jun 2013 #52

He didn't do what he was expected to because he was getting off on playing Cleita Jun 2013 #26

If Zimmerman was on the bottom...and he shot Trayvon in the heart...why no blood splatter Gin Jun 2013 #29

Something just occurred to me.... louis-t Jun 2013 #32

Interesting scenario! PearliePoo2 Jun 2013 #30

it fits my theory, I think Z already had his gun out Saphire Jun 2013 #33

That's reasonable to me too! nt. PearliePoo2 Jun 2013 #43

That's what he originally told the cops... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #54

Thanks for the verdict adric mutelovic Jun 2013 #31

Oh, wah, wah, wah. Maybe we should all have empty heads? WinkyDink Jun 2013 #39

yet another coincidence noiretextatique Jun 2013 #56

that makes sense: he fell forward after being shot noiretextatique Jun 2013 #44

Detective Greenley, I loved you in Boondock Saints. Fla_Democrat Jun 2013 #64

Who the hell would say "You got me"! polly7 Jun 2013 #70

That`s just the way we see it walkerbait41 Jun 2013 #72