Glenn Greenwald: NSA Can Store A BILLION CELL PHONE CALLS Every Day

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100. Well you seem to be ignorant of some lies you have issued

That civil rights/liberties can only be violated by government

A direct lie as those using illegal aliens for slave labour are also breaching civil rights/liberties. As Google has found when its Streetview showed unblurred faces.

That communicating information to a private entity during the coarse of doing business with that entity has absolutely no relationship to a government collecting that information

So any transactions with with overseas entities that may want to harm your country cannot be examined?

That stating there is some similarity means there is no privacy at all

There is privacy but not of published information. Dialing a phone number or addressing a letter or addressing an e-mail automatically publishes that information.

By that ridiculous logic the information stored by my doctor or my bank would be fine too...after all, I have given them my info, therefore I must not care who has that info

That is a lie where you are depending upon us not seeing that published information is different from private. If a doctor gives you a prescription for morphine, then presenting that prescription will trigger an enquiry by the pharmacist as to your medical condition and will also probably trigger an enquiry from the FDA.

That the gas station and cell phone company isn't also collecting my phone data, my location data, my financial data, my email data, my internet data, and whothefuckknows what other data

You persist in conflating published information (your number plate, your phone number, your e-mail address, your addressees, the people you call) with private (your financial data) and with data that you have chosen to reveal (your location).

My phone company has a fiduciary responsibility to me and a terms of service which is enforceable civilly and even criminally

This is true but it that fiduciary responsibility cannot extend to keeping the number you call a secret from other networks or, given modern digital routing, the number you are calling from a secret or your location. Smith v Maryland again because you persist in confusing published information with private.

Jeeezuz the amount of ignorance surrounding historical government access to information always required both transparency through release of public information, petitioning of a court with a presiding judge who's oath is soundly based on upholding the constitution of the US who requires a very specific objective on a very specific individual or group of individuals, and for the retrieval of very specific items

Apart from the fact this is word salad (yes that is an ad hom - but a justified one) you continue to display ignorance about the difference between published and private information. Published information can provide evidence for a justified search and seizure, exactly as telephoning Kim Il Jong would provide reason to record and examine your phone call.

No those who see no sideways shit in this whole story are more likely political hacks trying to protect their political interests, are indifferent about the weight of the US government, or are just ignorant of the ability of the government to destroy their life individually or collectively

and i thought mine was an ad hom ...

pipoman please think about what you write and use paragraphs as it aids comprehension of what you are trying to say.