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In reply to the discussion: The 4th amendment [View all]baldguy
(36,649 posts)And once your hit send your emails & texts don't belong to you either. The stuff you type here is owned by something called "Democratic Underground, LLC". It's not yours & you have no say over who has access to it.
This isn't a 4th Amendment issue - FISA goes back to 1978. AT&T's monopoly powers go back to at least 1913. You didn't own your phone; you didn't own the network you made your calls on. It didn't really change when AT&T was broken up in 1984 either, because you still didn't own the network you made your calls on. Our entire electronic communications network and all the information on it - telephone, cell phone, internet, email, text messages, fax, VOIP, etc. etc. - is the privately owned property of a handful of massive corporations. AND THEY CAN DO ANYTHING - ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING - THEY WANT WITH THE INFORMATION YOU GIVE TO THEM.
It's as if the fans of Snowden & Greenwald just woke up yesterday and found out they were being screwed. You don't like FISA, you don't like PRISM, you don't like the NSA, you don't like the USA PATRIOT Act - BUT YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHY! You were just told that they were bad.
Greenwald isn't going to tell you, because he's a corporate stooge. And Snowden is too naive or ignorant to care. (He was a big fan of the creeping security state until very recently). And they've both been promoting lies & more lies that are swallowed whole by their low information sycophants.
So, like mindless lemmings you follow exactly where the corporate stooge & the RW libertarian douchebag leads you & lay every last bit of the blame for this sorry situation at the feet of Obama & nobody else. Exactly where it doesn't belong.