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In reply to the discussion: Did Zimmerman self inflict his wounds? [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I think that's a bit ridiculous. I do think Zimmerman got his injuries in some other way than what he described. I don't believe Martin pounded his head on the walkway. No one saw this occur, and his injuries aren't consistent with having one's head repeatedly slammed into concrete.
I also don't think that Martin punched Zimmerman either. I think that Martin was on top of Zimmerman when he was shot but Zimmerman already had his gun out giving Martin every reason to be violently defending himself and scream for help. However, if in fact at the time of the gun shot it was Zimmerman on the bottom then he got his injuries from the recoil of the gun whacking him in the face and at least one of his head injuries from the whiplash of the gun recoil hitting him in the face causing his head to snap back and whack the pavement. But, if his gun was already out, it is entirely reasonable for Martin to violently defend himself and scream for help.
I think the big crux of this altercation is not who was on top and when but whether or not Zimmerman had his gun out and when, and I believe that anyone who has a gun when getting into a physical altercation with someone would draw that gun in order to stop the altercation so as not to become injured. I don't believe for a minute that Zimmerman didn't draw his gun until he was being pummeled or even struck once. When someone has a gun they would draw that gun in order to keep from being assaulted or to stop an altercation not necessarily to shoot it but to use it as a deterrent. And once that gun came out Martin had every right to defend himself however he could. I think that Zimmerman expected that by drawing his gun Martin would stop contributing to the altercation and do whatever Zimmerman wanted. But I also believe that when the gun came out that Martin believed he would be shot and defended himself as best he could.
I absolutely believe that once the physical altercation first started that Zimmerman pulled out his gun. Why would someone who has a gun when that gun gave them the courage to pursue someone and confront them would not draw that gun even to use as a deterrent rather than allow themselves to be hurt in any way and would expect that by drawing that gun on someone would cause that person to halt any attempt at further altercation? NO WAY do I believe that Zimmerman had this gun and allowed himself to get as injured as he did BEFORE drawing it. He would have drawn it the moment he felt threatened in any way. And if that is what happened it is reasonable that Martin would have believed he would be shot and done whatever he could to keep that from happening.
I also believe that it was Martin who was screaming whether he was the one on top or not because Zimmerman threatened him with his gun. The screams for help abruptly stopped with the gun shot, there's no reason to believe that someone with a gun pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger would be the one screaming for help, and there's no reason to believe that the person screaming for help would abruptly stop doing so at the moment they pulled the trigger. It's not so much what the screams sounded like whether coming from Zimmerman or Martin but the rest of the context of those screams as I mentioned. It's THAT that tells me it was Martin screaming for help, and he was screaming for help because Zimmerman had pulled his gun on him.