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morningfog

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40. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:12 PM

Jun 2013

As President Obama said on day one: "I firmly believe that Justice Louis Brandeis once said, that sunlight is the best disinfectant, and I know that restoring transparency is not only the surest way to achieve results, but also to earn back the trust in government without which we cannot deliver changes the American people sent us here to make."

Don't lose sight that it is the acts and secrets of our government that would be the cause of any damage, not the exposure of their existence.

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U.S. bugged EU offices, computer networks [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 OP

According to many here, if we spied on them, they were -- by definition -- an "enemy" villager Jun 2013 #1

Trying to find out how to do Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #5

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #2

Cue the apologists! "The EU is not an ally!" morningfog Jun 2013 #3

We spy on allies too, and they spy on us Recursion Jun 2013 #42

Proof that the US embassies in Berlin, Paris, Brussels are spied upon? temmer Jun 2013 #56

Australia, the UK, and Israel have all spied on us in the past two decades. Did heads roll? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #60

USA, USA, USA!!! You see, we can do that, nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #4

'The Target' quote Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #7

Yes, and it is just so helpful that Snowden has revealed all this, pnwmom Jun 2013 #6

Terra! The Link Jun 2013 #8

This is probably Assange inspired, he's into attacking the EU since they want his hiney in prison flamingdem Jun 2013 #9

Any opinion on the US bugging EU offices? morningfog Jun 2013 #12

My opinion is that it's not Snowden's job to create international problems flamingdem Jun 2013 #13

Any opnion on the US bugging EU offices? morningfog Jun 2013 #15

More like think Jun 2013 #26

My opinion is they're probably bugging ours as well. pnwmom Jun 2013 #14

You think that EU nations are bugging US government offices? morningfog Jun 2013 #16

I'm not moving goalposts. When people called Russia and China allies, pnwmom Jun 2013 #20

Can you just admit that you will defend anything and everything the Obama Adminsitration will morningfog Jun 2013 #23

Can you just admit you decided Snowden was a hero on day 1, pnwmom Jun 2013 #31

I dont' give a rat's ass about Snowden. morningfog Jun 2013 #34

You have no idea of the damage/help that Snowden's revelations will cause flamingdem Jun 2013 #37

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. morningfog Jun 2013 #40

Then why doesn't Snowden come back to the USA and make his case? flamingdem Jun 2013 #46

Why does that matter to the over reaching policies of the US? morningfog Jun 2013 #48

Switching subjects, moving goal posts I see nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #51

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. morningfog Jun 2013 #54

Personal attack, right on cue nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #57

This is hilarious. morningfog Jun 2013 #59

Gulping koolaid by the gallon. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #35

IF the US Senate and House of Representatives Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #10

Are you suggesting that AQ may have connections and communications with EU offices? morningfog Jun 2013 #11

information may be accessible there that could help in tracking al Queda. pnwmom Jun 2013 #17

Following your logic, these allies can't be trusted to help us? morningfog Jun 2013 #21

Since they don't have access to all the information we do, they wouldn't always know pnwmom Jun 2013 #24

Again, we can't trust them to turn over that which we find useful? morningfog Jun 2013 #25

"That which we find useful"? How would we have known to ask for it, if we didn't see it? pnwmom Jun 2013 #30

They would if you are correct in your assumption that they are bugging us. morningfog Jun 2013 #33

Two sets of eyes can look the same data and see different things pnwmom Jun 2013 #45

Your logic is impeccably totalitarian. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #38

It is a sight to behold. morningfog Jun 2013 #41

Information could also be sold to Wall Street Traders, who have great interest KoKo Jun 2013 #22

When you think about it, that could be a money maker. zeemike Jun 2013 #62

Was known more than 5 years ago meaning BUSH enjoy being played by Assange et al flamingdem Jun 2013 #18

The article states that the EU was a target for bugging in 2010. morningfog Jun 2013 #58

So just to get this straight mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #28

Are you actually defending this practice? cali Jun 2013 #44

I'm not condemning it. pnwmom Jun 2013 #49

This info is 5 years old and the EU knows about it already flamingdem Jun 2013 #53

So? whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #19

That's what Dick Cheney said. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #36

Do we have any friends we haven't spied upon? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #27

Wall Street, Major Banks, Monsanto Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #29

Those corporations are not socialist, the EU is, kinda. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #39

No, nor any that don't spy on us. Recursion Jun 2013 #43

this is a global issue temmer Jun 2013 #32

Nothing to see here folks except egregious violations of law, treaties, and the constitution. Brewinblue Jun 2013 #47

Europeans are furious - biggest embaressement for US so far temmer Jun 2013 #50

links that show this fury? nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #52

here - some instant reactions temmer Jun 2013 #55

It all depends on what your definition of' target' is. Octafish Jun 2013 #61

EU is an economic unit of over 300 million people--what part did we spy on? Kolesar Jun 2013 #63

No, the use of EU is very specific, they are talking about reorg Jun 2013 #66

Does Not Add Up rg123 Jun 2013 #64

You didn't read it reorg Jun 2013 #65