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19. Never did believe

Reply to OnyxCollie (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:36 PM

Jun 2013

that there is no interest. The nannies are extra busy now.

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"People Who Urge Calm Over NSA Spying Make Me Nervous" [View all] G_j Jun 2013 OP

The 4th Amendment doesn't say it's okay to track people's behavior sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #1

There are plenty of people here willing to give up my privacy for their security. L0oniX Jun 2013 #2

And there are plenty who are willing to give up my life for their total privacy. pnwmom Jun 2013 #5

While yer at ...it let me know when they keep the other driver from risking my life. L0oniX Jun 2013 #9

So tell me your threshold mick063 Jun 2013 #14

I'm not going to respond to ridiculous hypotheticals pnwmom Jun 2013 #16

Right mick063 Jun 2013 #17

Your fervent wish marions ghost Jun 2013 #22

+10000! nt snappyturtle Jun 2013 #42

+++++ marions ghost Jun 2013 #50

Gasping at 'ridiculous hypotheticals' moments after you posted this: Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #44

+++ marions ghost Jun 2013 #49

you're the one who introduced the ridiculous hypotheticals. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #61

It could be a 911every day and a Benghazi every night and I would *STILL* say abolish the NSA The Green Manalishi Jun 2013 #18

I'll bet they would too Progressive dog Jun 2013 #21

And if they gave up their privacy to save 200 children what would they be leaving snappyturtle Jun 2013 #51

You said "Sacrifice is never easy. imho" Progressive dog Jun 2013 #59

Thousands have died to keep us free. Are we supposed to roll over snappyturtle Jun 2013 #63

Some of those thouisands were spies. Progressive dog Jun 2013 #65

Either the Constitution is worth dying for or it isn't. I take it that you snappyturtle Jun 2013 #67

If you only have two choices, it must be very "simple" Progressive dog Jun 2013 #71

There's another legal avenue: amend the Constitution. Until snappyturtle Jun 2013 #73

Oh you're on the Supreme court Progressive dog Jun 2013 #74

I've said what I wanted to say. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. snappyturtle Jun 2013 #75

I have no problem with that. Progressive dog Jun 2013 #76

Who came up with that bullshit scenerio? blackspade Jun 2013 #52

The rare double false premise in one reply. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #86

Calm should return, reasonable thinking would indicate it would not be necessary to follow the calls Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #3

have you, or anyone you know been a member of G_j Jun 2013 #7

Not that I know of Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #8

And there you have it. blackspade Jun 2013 #53

Perhaps I do not choose to be a part of occupy, would you be comfortable with me suggesting you Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #56

Waht a strange question. sibelian Jun 2013 #64

Perhaps you did not read the previous information, I dont care if you do or do not actively Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #72

And why would I do that? blackspade Jun 2013 #79

Just because I am not an active participant in occupy does not mean I am not Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #84

Good to hear. blackspade Jun 2013 #85

My calls are not "wonderful"... but my phone may have been tapped in the 1980's, anyway. deurbano Jun 2013 #32

The point is that the government can chart all of your contacts and who they JDPriestly Jun 2013 #37

+1000 blackspade Jun 2013 #54

The Surveillance State and DU - There is No Connection There. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #4

From Mar 11 marions ghost Jun 2013 #12

I'm sure the poster OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #13

Never did believe marions ghost Jun 2013 #19

In one DUer's opinion. Quantess Jun 2013 #69

I have said one thing only and consistently on this board. Skidmore Jun 2013 #6

Well, that's being reasonable and implies people will be proactive. Ranting w/your hair on fire KittyWampus Jun 2013 #10

Exactly +1 DontTreadOnMe Jun 2013 #15

Ever stopped to consider that this is part of the process? mick063 Jun 2013 #20

With persuasion? For most politicans, what's more persuasive than money? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #25

I gotta give you credit for being right about most politicians mick063 Jun 2013 #29

Gee wiz, that's why some of us elect Wyden and Merkley who have been along Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #45

I'm sorry to disagree with you in that I think you make quite a few inferences Skidmore Jun 2013 #47

k and r nashville_brook Jun 2013 #11

Our past two administrations seem to be working to realize Mussolini's Dream in America panzerfaust Jun 2013 #23

The activities that are already illegal under 18 U.S.C. § 2511 should be prosecuted. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #24

People who urge calm make him nervous treestar Jun 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author railsback Jun 2013 #27

here is where it goes Chaco Dundee Jun 2013 #28

People who defend treason make me nervous Narkos Jun 2013 #30

I just read a stirring section on the patriotism and willingness to serve of US servicemen and JDPriestly Jun 2013 #40

I read your reply Narkos Jun 2013 #41

Had Snowden "faced the music" in the U.S. he would have had the next snappyturtle Jun 2013 #43

Yes, if he was courageous Narkos Jun 2013 #57

"Patriotism of the kind that won WWII" jberryhill Jun 2013 #58

You never make changes in the law in a climate of fear. randome Jun 2013 #31

ok G_j Jun 2013 #33

As treestar said above, panicked is the worst state of mind to make changes. randome Jun 2013 #34

panic is your take then, as well as irrational G_j Jun 2013 #36

And it was panic that gave birth to the Patriot Act and all of this crap. Fear. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #46

No, I don't admit it's utterly worthless but I do think it is badly flawed. randome Jun 2013 #48

Are you saying the PATRIOT Act wasn't written and passed in a "climate of fear"? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #66

No, I am not saying that. Clearly it was. randome Jun 2013 #70

Ahhhh... another supporter of Peter and C. Little whistler162 Jun 2013 #35

nice try G_j Jun 2013 #38

No doubt mick063 Jun 2013 #39

Like this? blackspade Jun 2013 #55

kr HiPointDem Jun 2013 #60

not urging calm.. just urging common sense. DCBob Jun 2013 #62

knr Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #68

My life in the phone lines Progressive dog Jun 2013 #77

There is a history of the FISA Courts all should understand, it is here to Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #78

You must be joking Aerows Jun 2013 #80

Previously to the FISA Act whoever was the presidemt could get the wiretaps without Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #83

No use arguing with the infatuated Aerows Jun 2013 #87

You may be correct in arguing with those infatuated with non truths, just like "scandals" of recent Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #88

I certainly do not advocate running out in a panic, but clearly there has been geckosfeet Jun 2013 #81

kick nashville_brook Jun 2013 #82