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struggle4progress

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3. Well, let illustrate Mr Greenwald's method
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:18 PM
Jun 2013

David Allen Green, at the New Statesman -- where the editor Jemima Khan had put of some of Assange's bail money -- wrote two quite informative columns Legal myths about the Assange extradition and The legal mythology of the extradition of Julian Assange

Mr Greenwald disliked Mr Green's claims in the first column and wrote a response

The New Statesman must correct its error over Assange and extradition
... Green claimed that "<i>t would not be legally possible for Swedish government to give any guarantee about a future extradition, and nor would it have any binding effect on the Swedish legal system in the event of a future extradition request" ...This is completely and unquestionably false ... Mark Klamberg – a professor of international law at the University of Stockholm – ... dissects Sweden's extradition law and makes Green's error as clear as it can be ...

Klamberg then tweets:
@ggreenwald is only qouting half of my statement and distorts my conclusion http://gu.com/p/3ax4a/tw @davidallengreen
https://twitter.com/Klamberg/status/239028648424898560

Klamberg then followed up with a lengthy blog post:

Sequencing and the discretion of the Government in Extradition cases
The problem is that Greenwald earlier and later in the same text argues for a sequence that would put the Government before the Supreme Court. In essence he is arguing that the Government should have the first and the last say with the Supreme Court in the middle. That would make the Supreme Court redundant which is contrary to the sequence that is provided for in the Extradition Act which I have tried to describe. It may also violate the principle of separation of powers.

At the time I looked into this, back in 2012, a number of tweets and emails were available by web-search, between various persons involved in this exchange, but it was not easy to sort it all out: Greenwald IMO has a habit of selectively quoting people out of context and then aggressively denying that he misrepresented what they were saying. I've just posting here enough of what I can easily reconstruct to show that Greenwald (1) misrepresented Klamberg's views and (2) knew soon after that Klamberg complained Greenwald misrepresented Klamberg's views (see the tweet page above) -- and as far as I can tell, Greenwald never admitted anywhere that he had misrepresented Klamberg's views


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hmm... quinnox Jun 2013 #1
I hear cicadas... railsback Jun 2013 #24
How many times do we have to repeat this? baldguy Jun 2013 #2
Thanks. Greenwald is using the Republican template of taking a sliver flamingdem Jun 2013 #4
Thanks for the opinions whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #7
You have to repeat it because they say so.. they can't quite get Cha Jun 2013 #11
Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, none of it constitutes any proof of anything. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #12
Thread backfire. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #14
Right? Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #48
That. Recursion Jun 2013 #15
This one is an opinion on a blog. Not proof. Th1onein Jun 2013 #25
If that mattered to the effect of propaganda upon discourse, there would be no Fox News. nt patrice Jun 2013 #26
^^^1000%^^^ Narkos Jun 2013 #29
It's beyond belief tht you would repost that list of links all of which have been successfully sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #32
The answers to your repetitive questions have also been posted many, many times. baldguy Jun 2013 #42
Excellent. Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #33
Well, let illustrate Mr Greenwald's method struggle4progress Jun 2013 #3
+1000 baldguy Jun 2013 #5
You guys are good! moondust Jun 2013 #6
"Be careful what you ask for because you just might get it." Scurrilous Jun 2013 #8
None of that constitutes proof whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #9
He asked for proof of lies. What we are getting is the same old now long ago debunked sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #34
Sabrina1, all you're going to get here is more propaganda. Th1onein Jun 2013 #36
I know. Having read Greenwald since he was slamming Bush's policies sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #40
Isn't there moondust Jun 2013 #39
I like it here just fine, being that I AM a Democrat. Got anything on actual substance to offer? I sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #41
You forgot Freeperville not that any of that is relevent to the current discussion think Jun 2013 #43
So you are siding with the Corp-Media on this? Shoot the messangers when it looks bad for rhett o rick Jun 2013 #23
People-power wins thru usable fact-based analysis and good goals -- not thru ideological purity struggle4progress Jun 2013 #27
You dont want facts. You want to disparage Snowden and ignore the facts related rhett o rick Jun 2013 #28
The OP invites discussion of Mr Greenwald, whom I dislike, more or less precisely because IMO struggle4progress Jun 2013 #30
You side with the Republicans. You side with Clapper and Mueller, both Republican liars. How rhett o rick Jun 2013 #31
You're blowing smoke out your ass: you can't produce a link showing I've praised either of them, and struggle4progress Jun 2013 #38
Good, I agree with that. Fact based being the operative words there. Documentation is key to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #37
Nicely done. nt Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #35
Glenn Greenwald defend Rand Paul against "Democratic myths" ProSense Jun 2013 #10
Where's the lie? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #13
Please list the names of liquor store robbers that have been attacked by drone strikes. baldguy Jun 2013 #16
I'm talking about the oft-alleged lies of Greenwaldand not about liquor stores. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #17
Just as I expected. baldguy Jun 2013 #21
That was Paul, not Greenwald. reusrename Jul 2013 #50
nice horsie flamingdem Jun 2013 #18
This is a distraction BainsBane Jun 2013 #19
I agree with you about halfway DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #20
Agree. ananda Jun 2013 #44
I once found a sack of quarters by the side of the road. Zorra Jun 2013 #22
He lied about his hat size once bobduca Jun 2013 #45
glenn greenwald and jeremy scahill are HEROS boilerbabe Jun 2013 #46
I don't hate Greenwald. Check the OP again. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #47
Final tally: 0 Greenwald lies posted. Thanks for playing. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #49
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